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				 Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders 
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				 Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders 
 So,
 what should I do to join? Just sending the pretender file to the server is enough?
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					Originally Posted by P3D  So,
 what should I do to join? Just sending the pretender file to the server is enough?
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				 Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders 
 True, I have some experience under my belt already, though I wouldn't classify myself as one of the "vets."
 Yomi is considered to be one of the less-mighty nations, and I chose them for balance because some of the players in this game probably are playing multiplayer for their first time.
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					Originally Posted by licker  I slightly prefer upping it, so if you are getting mixed results between 45 and 55 why not pick the middle? |  Rather not. 
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				 Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders 
 The current setting is Magic Sites - 55.  I have licker, Redeyes, and Trumanator in favor plus statttis somewhere in between.  Only qio and myself were not in favor.  3.5 to 2.  Sound OK?
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				 Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders 
 You've been unlucky, pyg, with all the crazy discussion for such a straightforward game! There is not normally such controversy over a game setting. Incidentally, although it is much more common to leave it at the default value, I don't think it really matters what option you go for. You should feel free though, as the game organiser, to be as draconian as you like in going with what you want rather than what your players want.
 qjo, please do not go so crazy in future. You say this is not as bad as when you really get flaming - that's not really relevant, your tone was still out of place in a friendly newbie game. Or indeed on this forum in general. This forum is, on the whole, an exceptionally civil place, so you should aim to be more polite than is the norm in some parts of the internet.
 
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				 Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders 
 Tolkien brought up the question of diplomacy and nobody, including myself, responded.  Anyway, with such a high stakes game (no second place) I think it's odd to expect good diplomatic behavior.  In fact it would be good role playing on the part of many [all] nations to make and break agreements as it serves them.  On the other hand it is difficult to separate our real selves from our game self when our game self was just brutally betrayed by an ally.  That disappointment can really hurt.  Anyway, those are my thoughts.  I'm in favor of anything goes and no matter what anyone tells me I'm only ever trusting GrudgeBringer ;-) |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by llamabeast  qjo, please do not go so crazy in future. You say this is not as bad as when you really get flaming - that's not really relevant, your tone was still out of place in a friendly newbie game. Or indeed on this forum in general. This forum is, on the whole, an exceptionally civil place, so you should aim to be more polite than is the norm in some parts of the internet.
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If a person is expressing an opinion then fine. If someone takes the time to respond to a post and starts arguing an issue, claiming I said x, y and z, or so forth. Then they really should actually read the post and stick to facts. Typos and language considerations aside, which didn't seem to be the case, he clearly didn't do me that courtesy. Yes. I could just ignore his reply, but I'm mean, selfish and hateful. 
 
I could equally argue he started this with a suave snide, but that's irrelevant. I don't think my original reply to him was flaming, just a snap. The second, he ordered. It would have been prudent on my part to respond to him via PM. Then again, neither did he - nor you.
			
			
			
			
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				 Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders 
 Ah whoops, qio, sorry.
 I am strongly of the opinion that any supposed provocation is no excuse whatever for rude behaviour. Issues can always be resolved with civility, and indeed that's what people normally do.
 
 I responded to you publicly because I thought it was important that the newish players who'd be on this thread understood that flaming wasn't a normal part of this community.
 
 Although experience has taught me that people who flame or are rude can rarely even understand why I'd want to enforce civility when "people are being WRONG on the internet", it's nevertheless important to stick to the rules even if you disagree with them. The point is to make sure everyone feels this is a friendly place (which it is).
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