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				 Rookie Questions re Glamour and Patches 
 Hi All
 Two completely separate questions actually.
 
 1)I am brand new.  I have an old version 3.20 or 3.00.  There have been many patches since then and I have no idea how to insert them into my game or how to find them.  How would I do this?
 
 2)  I started out playing TC.  I just got slaughtered by a bunch of Helhirdlings.  I have no answer for them.  I can't even seem to hit them ... with anything.  How does one deal with glamour units like Helhirdlings?
 
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				 Re: Rookie Questions re Glamour and Patches 
 1) What operative system do you have? 
2) Try lots of archers. Glamour affects the defence stat, so it won't stop a good volley of death 
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				 Re: Rookie Questions re Glamour and Patches 
 Glamour has long since been nerfed and it no longer offers any protection from arrows, so yes. Mass composite archers (which TC should already be using with Fire Arrows). |  
	
		
	
	
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 I believe if you download the patch, it should tell you how to install it.  AFAIK the patches are cumulative: it doesn't matter what version you had beforehand. |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by Ewierl  I believe if you download the patch, it should tell you how to install it.  AFAIK the patches are cumulative: it doesn't matter what version you had beforehand. |  
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				 Re: Rookie Questions re Glamour and Patches 
 Thanks
 All of you.  Your responses were very quick and responsible.
 
 I have a real idiot question for you.  I received an arena summons.  So figuring I wanted to win, I send my pretender.  Heck it was turn two I figured I just reboot if he croaks.  Well, he won alright.  And I got this nifty little two handed trident.  The problem is that the trident is cursed and now I can't get rid of it.
 
 Can I break the curse to get rid of the thing?
 
 Also, what happens when the next arena challenge arrives?  Is my pretender required to go?
 
 How can I get out of it?
 
 Is there a way to send someone else in his place?
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				 Re: Rookie Questions re Glamour and Patches 
 It's generally a Very Bad Idea to send your pretender into the arena.
 Until he dies, he will be forced to fight during each arena challenge, and unless he can change shape to something without hands, he'll be hanging on to that trident.
 
 The only way to make him no longer be the champion is to let him die. If you just want to remove the trident, the Transformation alteration nature spell can likely turn him into a handless animal, but that's risky, and he'll probably become much weaker.
 
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