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		Put all your drones to get minerals, and build two more drones. Then spawn an overlord. After that, build a spawning pool and as soon as it is built set your larvae to become zerglings. Attack the enemy resource gatherers ASAP, and AFTER that, focus on their base building. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				What if I say yes, I don't have any more gold for commander??? 
I was thinking about the mound king for example, 3 death gems. 
Or if I missed any other cheap commander. 
			
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 It seems Telestic Animations don't have any misc slots, so they won't work. Hmm...
 
Black Servants would be just 2 gems more, for more survivability. 
 
Do commanders desert when you can't pay them? If you have access to 30 gp commanders, 2 fire gems can be alchemized to recruit one of them.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				What if I say yes, I don't have any more gold for commander??? 
I was thinking about the mound king for example, 3 death gems. 
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 It seems Telestic Animations don't have any misc slots, so they won't work. Hmm...
 
Black Servants would be just 2 gems more, for more survivability. 
 
Do commanders desert when you can't pay them? If you have access to 30 gp commanders, 2 fire gems can be alchemized to recruit one of them.  
			
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				Depends on the map size, number of opponents, the nation you're playing, the nation being played by your opponents, game settings, etc.,. 
 
It would be like asking... "What's the fastest way to begin farming on a new planet?"   (What planet, what type of farming, etc., etc.,) 
			
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 LoL, I knew you weregoing to say that! I'll try to re word it. I know it is a very broad question but try to answer the best you can.    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Small maps: Awake SC or High Dominion Bless. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Alchemize 3 fire gems for 45 gold, and use that to recruit 2 scouts.  Becomes even more cost effective with the Alchemist's Stone. 
 
More generally, be next to someone when they drop out, and then quickly take the lands of your new AI neigbor. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				How bout this, what the cheapest fastest way to make clam holders? Other than buying them. 
			
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				Ok, here is a question for the pros and to the experienced... 
What is the cheapest trick in the book? 
When you want to win and want to win FAST without caring for the "quality" or "fun" of the game, what do you do? 
What do you consider to be the cheapest easiest way to win? 
*without cheating ofcourse* 
Is it massing out one unit? 
Spell Spam? 
Do share! 
(On your average game, small/big/huge what is the cheapest trick regardless of settings? 
			
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 Seriously though, there are so many tricks in this game that they all sort of balance each other out vaguely. Bless strats, awake pretenders, elephant rushes, dominion kills, fear effects + cut-offs, stealthy raiders, broken NAPs, skinshifters, and so-on-and-so-forth. They can all be considered "cheap" to the person who is losing to them. Most of the time it comes down to having the right tools at the right time. Just about everything is fair game. I mean, this is war we are talking about. Though I assume it always to be a gentlemen's war. I myself would not tolerate any form of cheating.
 
A better question might be to ask what people would do as part of a spiteful loss. Where you can't win a war but still want to inflict as much damage as possible. Its more interesting to know what people will do when they have nothing to lose.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Spiteful?  How about bane venom charms on black servants sneaking about your opponents lands.  Or pillaging any province you take upto a 1000+ unrest and killing the population.  Make sure you destroy your lab the turn before someone captures your castle.  Taxes upto 200% of course.  Lots of other stuff you can do as well of course but there are some of the most obvious. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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