How should word "C'tis" be pronounced?

[Jarkko]

In Finnish C-words are K-words for whatever reason. Cimmeria is Kimmeria, Cyprus is Kypros.

Thus it is no wonder that I, and the people I play with, have always said "C'tis" as "Ktis". Dunno if it is wrong or right, but "Stis" just sounds not right in my ears

[lch]

Originally Posted by MaxWilson

P.S. How do you pronounce "Hastur"? "Hastr"? "HASS-ter"? "Has"--[glug]

hahss-tour

[Gregstrom]

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

Stiped comes from the Latin 'Stipendium'. Why is this so odd? Because Latin has no "ih" sound for I, yet we use it all the time in words derived from Latin - except in this case, we kept the original pronunciation.....

Some of this may be related to use of church Latin, which is not pronounced in the same way as classical Latin for some reason. Church Latin, for instance, pronounces c as a 'ch' sound most of the time, where classical Latin uses a hard 'k' sound.

PS: I thought R'lyeh was generally pronounced 'AAAAARGH!gibber*splatter*crunch*gristle (pause) belch'

[Amorphous]

Originally Posted by lch

Nice. I didn't notice this before. Quite probably they're really related.

They are the same.
"Bean Sidhe" is modern Irish spelling of "banshee". You can also see it spelled "banshie", "bean si" or "ben sidhe"; people of Scottish persuasion sometimes write it as "ban-sìth", "bean-sìth" or"ban-shìth". I believe that there are slightly different spellings of it from east Munster and Isle of Man, but I do not remember those exactly and I am away from my books at the moment.

Although I have probably already added far more information than you really wanted, I can add that the terms mean "fairy woman" or "woman of the fairy mound".




As for Latin pronunciation, I have found that discussing that is a sure-fire way of getting shouted at by fanatics that all present slightly - or very - different versions of the only true pronunciation. As far as I know, though, Latin was around for quite a long time and pronunciation did differ between localities and over time. And probably between social groups, as well.

[Gregstrom]

Well, Latin spread over a pretty big area so I suppose regional accents would have been pretty common.

[JimMorrison]

There will always be dialects - I think the question is, what was considered correct in Rome in 0AD?

[Foodstamp]

Yeah, I always wonder how people can argue the correct pronunciation of dead languages such as Latin or ancient Greek. I would think the truth would be none of us knows, but maybe there is some texts that are found that were used to teach people proper pronunciation during the time period? No se.

[Agema]

There are hints looking at language development. For instance, "c" seems to have developed from "k" in much earlier Latin, which makes it very likely that it was pronounced hard, and there are other hints. You might be able to tell from poetry - inaccurate prounciation can wreck meter and rhyme.

Also I think that most of the population - even Italians in classical Rome - would not generally have spoken what we know as classical Latin, which was really a very formal and proper form used in literature and by the upper classes. Most people would have spoken Vulgar Latin, which would have varied greatly across nations and peoples in the Roman empire with some differences in pronunciation and vocabulary. You could compare with different uses of English worldwide, although the comparison fails at the level that English does not really have a formal standard in the way (to the best of my knowledge) that Latin did.

[Endoperez]

Originally Posted by Agema

English does not really have a formal standard in the way (to the best of my knowledge) that Latin did.

The formal standard of English is a very vulgar Latin. It's used in formal documents, encyclopedias, etc. The grammar has changed, but not the vocabulatory. Here's a short passage from Wikipedia article about Scientific Method, with non-Latin words emboldened and links to etymology for Greek and Latin words.

Scientific method refers to bodies of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge. To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.

[Agema]

Heh, nice one.

I might suggest the nearest that English has had to a formal language used in courts, literature and by the upper classes was around 11-14th centuries, and that formal language was French

Some Latin vocabulary was reintroduced via French, and more Latin and Greek was added because the people who used many terms of science and officialdom had extensive classical educations and made new words from them.