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[Deathstalker]

Ever had one of those days where your head is just not screwed on straight?

I just kicked the wrong empire from the game. Yep, not the one that was holding us up but the first person to join all those weeks ago. Damn.
Barrybeal if you get here before you check your email I am sorry (and damn embarrased) about this. Please join/upload your empire again, a spot will be saved for you. This game will start once Barry is back.

Geo, any chance you could add a 'Are you sure you want to kick player 'XNAME' from the game?' message for dunderheads like me to the pbw admin section??

[Deathstalker]

And we are off! Any questions/comments/general player annoucements don't hesitate to post here/pbw site or email me. (I_8_BAD_GRAPES@Hotmail.com). If you are taking vacation please let me know and I will see what I can do so your turns don't get screwed up (just as long as your not taking 3 months off or something to seek your inner self in Tibet.... ).

And yes, the map is a bit strange, your home system and a few others may have some adverse effects (ie shields don't work or combat sensors are reduced.) yes this is the intended effect. My Version of the 'QuadMod' was used to create a random map and then the Sphereworld was introduced.

Above all HAVE FUN (yes that is an order), its just a game.

[Unknown_Enemy]

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[Skulky]

don't mean to interupt this discussion but what exactly is tech trading? What's the big deal?

[capnq]

don't mean to interupt this discussion but what exactly is tech trading? What's the big deal?

When you make a trade offer to another empire, one of the things you can trade is technology.

This can really be exploited against an AI player, since they're not good at judging "fair" trades. For instance, you can convince a neutral to trade their Colonization tech for yours; they can then colonize a few more worlds in their home system, while you take the rest of the map.

I'm less certain about why people dislike tech trades between human players; someone else will have to explain that.

[Unknown_Enemy]

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Galaxy Encyclopedia Universalis
Ref 191628.1267.924 Chapt 12.9 Quadrant 67.2

Race Orks Variant Burning Teath Clans

Subject : Weapons of choice Ref W61.36U
Item : Fusion hand Grenade
Low tech device containing a small fusion field and some nuclear materials in suffisant quantity to create a weapon of 10 to 30 Kt fusion bomb. Mostly used by Goblins (Ref Orks sub-type O46.78D) on ground assault duties. No Orks were ever plausibly recorded to launch one and survive the bLast under standard (1g) gravity.

Subject Orks sub-type : Goblins Ref O46.78D
Orks usually sort their own populations in 3 parts :
- Warboyz warrior class
- FunzOrks reproductive females
- Cattle general labor class
When a Cattle class Ork is deemed too stupid to accomplish the easiest work, he is called "Goblin" and send into special assault squads. These units usually have a strategy summarized as "we have more troops than you have bullets".

[ July 18, 2002, 17:31: Message edited by: Unknown_Enemy ]

[Skulky]

So for example i would say that i will research chemistry and sheilds and sensors and my ally would do research in PDC and PPB and we woudl trade those techs along the way so taht we wouldn't be redundant in researching thigns 2x?

[geoschmo]

Exactly. In fact we had a game a while back with four man teams and research was multiplied 4X in effect, but it was a big hassle coordinating it all. I think in retrospect such a team game would have been better just starting as high tech. But that's just my opinion. Some people prolly get a kick out of it. And I like research myself, I just get annoyed having to do all the trade Messages back and forth.

Maybe if SEIV had another level of treaty beyond partnership that did this automatically I could go for it. Subjugation treaty transfers tech automatically from weaker to stronger. You'd just need a new treaty that would do this both ways. What would you call it though?

A Union treaty maybe? Let each other view each other planets, and cargo, automatically transfer resources by simply clicking a slide bar somewhere, without having to send an offer and wait for it to be accepted. View each others communications both ways, although not be able to send comms for each other. Maybe even be able to take population and cargo from each other by simply loading it from their planet to your ship. Give control of a ship or fleet to the other, without losing ownership. (That Last one I have heard before. That would be a nice feature without having to have a Union Treaty)

Geoschmo

[ July 18, 2002, 20:30: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[geoschmo]

[quote]Originally posted by capnq:

I'm less certain about why people dislike tech trades between human players; someone else will have to explain that.

Personally I don't like it because it pushes the game into a predictable rut. One person will meet another person and they will begin to cooperate and do research and trade all the techs, thus doubling the amount of research. It ends up being not oen or two techs that they need at the moment, but all the techs.

And everybody HAS to do it, because if you choose not to, you fall behind in tech and get spanked. The game ends up being about who can coordinate there research projects bettern. Very boring IMHO.

But it is a part of the game, so I almost never ban it outright in my games, but put it to a vote of the players. If enough of them want to I will allow it. But I always vote agaisnt it, and if it's allowed it will make me very much not want to play in the game.

Geoschmo

[Deathstalker]

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Alert! Alert! Priority One Distress!
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"General! Ships entering Home Sector!

"Scanners Ensign! Who and What are they!"

"Data confirms it sir! Both the Xi'Chung and Aquiliaens are heading straight for us!"

"Ready the main guns and send someone to wake the Primus. We're in for a bumpy ride son."

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Ohhhh, this is gonna be a tough one. It's what turn 7 and at war X2 already!