Ok, death magic and afflictions, what's the deal?

[chrispedersen]

My gut says its not just disease. Death mages seem to get a lot less general afflictions.

Case in point: Playing a game now: Out of 11-12 mages - every single non death mage got afflicted the first winter. Not one death mage did.

[ano]

I may add a point here. In a current game as LA C'tis one of my D4 Sauromancers got diseased. I was really surprised (yes, it was late winter and no disease site there) but just ignored it. Perhaps another bug.
I archive all my turns so if anyone (preferably the devs) is interested, they are available.

Also, another thing here (was discussed recently). Now I'm absolutely sure that afflictions are not divided into "old-age" and "not-old-age" meaning that you can't heal affliction with healers when your unit has old age, no matter how this affliction was received. For example, you have absolutely no chance of curing old mindhunters from feeblemind unless you remove the old age somehow.

[Calahan]

@ Ano - As LA C'tis, were you running a Death scale by any chance?

[ano]

No. I usually avoid it.
Growth/Death 0.

[Illuminated One]

Hmm, that's tough, I can't remember any good human mindhunter that wouldn't border old age.

[ano]

Yes, I also thought I could heal Adepts of Silver Order with Priestesses but I was wrong
There're some though.. For example, a Shadow Seer.

[Calahan]

That is a bit odd then Ano. I've often wondered if how far past the "Start of Old Age" mark a unit is plays a part in it somewhere along the lines. (either in years or as a percentage of their lifespan). Have never seen anything mentioned anywhere on it, but I'm sure I've noticed that units which have just crept over the old age mark seem far less likely to pick up old age afflictions than units that are well past it.

[Poopsi]

Originally Posted by Baalz

I think the thematic reason for this is grizzled old necromancers don't ever seem to die, but they do lose body parts, develop a menacing wheeze, and start looking like they're already undead...

"Old necromancers never die, they just fall apart"

That is a bit odd then Ano. I've often wondered if how far past the "Start of Old Age" mark a unit is plays a part in it somewhere along the lines. (either in years or as a percentage of their lifespan). Have never seen anything mentioned anywhere on it, but I'm sure I've noticed that units which have just crept over the old age mark seem far less likely to pick up old age afflictions than units that are well past it.

Most likely it's because they haven't rolled the affliction rolls yet. I found a table around where someone ran tests with different old-agers, and they didn't find that units long past the old age threshold fell apart more often that units only a bit over it.

I may add a point here. In a current game as LA C'tis one of my D4 Sauromancers got diseased.

Was he at your capital, or out in the fields? My D4 thaum got his affliction while walking around, so I am still unsure as to whether it was a genuine old age affliction, a battle wound, or something from some undetected disease site.

[ano]

He was sitting researching in the castle. And it was disease. I never thought that the chance of other afflictions is lessened (and it was never written) so just didn't give it any attention.

[Poopsi]

Ok, testing this thing.

I'm running a hotseat with ermor and machaka to test death mages of various sorts. I intend to check afflictions on mages from 1D to 5D.

In particular, I´ll try to build up a base of D3 to see how well they survive, and keep one D4 and one D5.

I´ll run it for a couple of lots of turns (is there any way to make this happen automatically?) and tell you whether they survive


Ok, update on the testing: Turn 45-46

The D2 guys are falling slowly but surely. D3 are intact so far. Same with D4-5

Turn 67: one of the 3D guys (out of three) afflicted.

Turn 72: My D4 guy got afflicted by weakness (curiously enough, that's what my original 4D guy got)