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				 Free-Spawning Units 
 Just a quick question. Does anyone have a list of all the Commander units that have free-spawning units?(Ageless Olm, West and Eastern Generals, Vampire Count, etc) |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Free-Spawning Units 
 Most of those are freespawners only in the CBM. To check those you can open the .dm file  and check which pretenders have a #summon or a #domsummon
 Exceptions to this are: Vampire queen, Lord of the Night, Polypal mother, Prince of Death which are freespawners in vanilla as well, afaik
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				May 31st, 2009, 01:37 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Free-Spawning Units 
 The ghost king generates ghosts, too. |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 31st, 2009, 05:48 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Free-Spawning Units 
 LA Ermor has a national hero unit who freespawns Shade Beasts (can't think of his name at the moment...). |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Free-Spawning Units 
 The "AllUnits" tab of Edi's Dom3 DB spreadsheet can be sorted on Columns FL to FS to show all units that summon in vanilla.  Here's a link to his DB thread:http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=42819
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				June 1st, 2009, 03:36 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Free-Spawning Units 
 Ok, now bear with me for a second. 
What if someone say, used the Wish spell to summon all the commanders/pretenders that give free units. Would they in theory have an army spawning every turn?  |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Free-Spawning Units 
 If you can cast wish, you'll be at a point where armies are no longer needed, and if you can cast it many times, you've probably won the game already, there are way better uses of it  |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by Zargen  Ok, now bear with me for a second. 
What if someone say, used the Wish spell to summon all the commanders/pretenders that give free units. Would they in theory have an army spawning every turn?  |  In theory yes, but by the time you have Wish available in games, armies to a large extent have pretty limited uses by then. And armies made up of freespawn will have even less use than that by that stage. Not really the best use of a Wish IMO.
 
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				 Re: Free-Spawning Units 
 -NON-FREE SPAWN RELATED-Units such as machaka spider have no upkeep once they fall on their second form, that is when the rider dies, does that apply for every unit this type, and more precisely does that apply on Gryphon riders, 125 gold!!!Ouch!
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				 Re: Free-Spawning Units 
 Check Edi's DB, I don't think all units have upkeep free second form. There were some tweaks done that [at least to shapeshifting form of giants]. Best unit in that category is probably Cave Drake from LA Agartha's Cave Knight. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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