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				August 29th, 2009, 07:13 AM
			
			
			
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 > I see now how it is with rushes. Helheim and Abysia were > pressing hard.. Maybe Ulm needs an awake SC pretender.
 
 Thank you for putting up a good fight. I spent many enjoyable hours trying to figure out how to beat on you.
 
 Honestly your map position, trapped against the edge, was the main problem. On a per-gold basis, your sacreds are better than mine, and your archers, in quantity, can be effective getting rid of my pesky glamor. OTOH, every time you spend 200G on a commander, that is useless in combat until battle magic gets researched; whereas my commanders are all sacred thugs out of the box. Which is why I realized I had to attack you very early if at all.
 
 Anyway, GG. Next go-around, I hope we won't be adjacent, or if we are, that I find out who you are sooner so I can talk to you.
 
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				August 29th, 2009, 07:35 AM
			
			
			
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 It's a crying shame, I was quite enjoying that. And I was about to start chewing on Ermor, too =/
 
 
 Anyway, count Mictlan in for the next game, though I might tinker with my pretender.
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				August 29th, 2009, 09:22 AM
			
			
			
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 Well, I think Oriana (wrap around will fix all those problems of being pushed into a corner. 
My problem....LOL
 
My problem was Hinnon on my underside and Caelem made a pact with him so I was the sacrificial lamb.
 
I think/hope I made it hard enough on him that it would put him behind as I was fighting a guerrilla war and was about to lose my Cap.
 
Thanks to all those anonymous nations that sent me gold and gems
 
I think the only way to beat Hinnom early is make him pay for every battle as he is so resource intensive.
 
ME....why heck, I'm just a peaceful 'ol' nation that likes everyone. I cry every time I even have to take an indie province. 
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				August 29th, 2009, 10:48 AM
			
			
			
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 I'm game for another round.  Maybe a map that has more provinces/player this time? |  
	
		
	
	
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				August 29th, 2009, 11:15 AM
			
			
			
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 Count with me I'll play with vanheim. 
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 I'll jump in again as Pan.  However, I find the Orania map incredibly annoying and ugly, so if we could avoid it that would be great.  Personally I like Cradle a lot, but that isn't wraparound. |  
	
		
	
	
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 ok i'm back! sorry it took so long, but as life usually goes, thinks were FUBAR at the worst possible day for me.
 like i said, the vp thing is probably my fault, sorry.
 
 i thought i could just unstart the game, but it appears i can't, so we will have to have people re-submit their pretenders. hopefully most of you guys are still up for the game.
 
 re-map
 personally i agree with Trumanator, and don't really like oraina, what about PashaDawg's Asia Twist? its roughly the same size, and wraparound.
 
 Edit: the only thing is, with Asia twist, we will need two more water nations, but that shouldn't be too hard
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 I just played a practice on Oriana...It is an incredibly boring map.
 I had a Capitol surrounded by 5 Fertile regions. I couldn't spend money fast enough and STILL had about 4700 by turn 12.
 
 I looked at other areas on the map and they where pretty bleak...
 
 Wrap around maps are OK (actually I liked Darkheavens as it was easy on the eyes) but for the most part they are VERY...errr, colorful and are hard to stare at for any length of times.
 
 I am going to propose that we use the standards and Streamers Mod so we can see each other better.
 
 Suggestions gentlemen
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