winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish - Page 4

harlikwin · #31 September 9th, 2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wdll

Snipers were used as reccon troops? When and where? I am not aware of any army sending first snipers to scout. Only here some people do it.

US marine scout snipers by doctrine are probably the best example, or UK snipers. Usually they are used more as FO's or scouts rather than shooting (which of course they can do too).

More to the point snipers or even designated marksmen usually are far better trained to spot and identify enemy personnel or equipment (can't shoot what you can't see). And in past decades 40's-90's the fact they were well equipped with optics compared to other troops should IMO give them some sort "vision" rating (5-10 early on, perhaps more in later decades).

Wdll · #32 September 9th, 2009, 04:03 PM

I don't disagree with having good vision rating. The thing is, they do. Most countries have a variety of snipers with appropriate vision and other stats, including of course cost...so, I don't see the problem.

Mobhack · #33 September 9th, 2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wdll

I don't disagree with having good vision rating. The thing is, they do. Most countries have a variety of snipers with appropriate vision and other stats, including of course cost...so, I don't see the problem.

That will be because the vision rating in SP is night vision equipment, and nothing whatsoever to do with optical rifle aiming sights. See the FC and perhaps RF stats for that, plus the individual characteristics of the "sniper rifle" weapon.

Andy

Wdll · #34 September 9th, 2009, 04:56 PM

Just to make sure, I don't have a problem with snipers as they are implemented in the game now.

harlikwin · #35 September 10th, 2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mobhack

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Originally Posted by Wdll

I don't disagree with having good vision rating. The thing is, they do. Most countries have a variety of snipers with appropriate vision and other stats, including of course cost...so, I don't see the problem.

That will be because the vision rating in SP is night vision equipment, and nothing whatsoever to do with optical rifle aiming sights. See the FC and perhaps RF stats for that, plus the individual characteristics of the "sniper rifle" weapon.

Andy

Ah. Klar.

I mean I don't think they are badly done at this point, I just think that improving their spotting stats would be appropriate.

Imp · #36 September 10th, 2009, 03:27 PM

Well buy the ones from elite formations if present.

Wdll · #37 September 10th, 2009, 03:36 PM

Doesn't every country have various snipers with various stats?

Imp · #38 September 11th, 2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Wdll

Doesn't every country have various snipers with various stats?

Thats weapon or vision aid stats to "see" better & all over general performance its experince that counts. Try playing a 60 exp country vs an 80 one, experince costs & it should. If morale is bad to can be a real problem as never see who shot before running & even if do the poor shot is now a bad one.
Snipers work well in the game they dont see better but hard to spot so see the enemy first. If keep him at range 4-600m can stay undetected all day if he just fires at important targets to supress before squads open up. Just make sure he does not use all his shots when opfires or might become visible.

Wdll · #39 September 11th, 2009, 06:12 AM

I am still not sure why you are saying these things to me, but ok lol.

Imp · #40 September 11th, 2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Wdll

I am still not sure why you are saying these things to me, but ok lol.

Because the thread was about seeing better not the equipment they have.
IMHO they do just fine a stationary snipper spots troops moving on his position a long time before they spot him all other things being equal