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September 17th, 2009, 05:06 AM
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Re: mind control
Does Apostacy target only sacreds or only priests?
I'm surprised it's resisted with MR+4 given the amounr of (admittedly Ulmish) priests I once managed to convert with just two castings.
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September 17th, 2009, 07:11 AM
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Re: mind control
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September 17th, 2009, 11:23 AM
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Re: mind control
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Originally Posted by ano
The message when you try to charm a Cyclops is "XXX wasn't even remotely interested in the beauty of a Oreiad". When such a message appears I don't know. I think we may only guess or test and I'm tired of both in this game.
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It looks to me like the sweet spot is morale 20. At 20 and above the unit is seduction-immune. You can double-check with lch when he reappears, he is better at this stuff than I am.
But I tested with a morale-18 unit with and without a Dragon Helmet, and it only gives the "wasn't even remotely interested" when wearing the Dragon Helmet.
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September 18th, 2009, 07:09 AM
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Re: mind control
In a recent game my succubus had seduced a paladin with Dragon helmet on and morale of 22. The CBM 1.41 was in use.
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September 20th, 2009, 09:16 AM
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Re: mind control
I did some more testing. 40 Succubi, 40 Paladins with dragon helms.
With CBM1.41 enabled (succubus bonus 25), the "not remotely interested" messages appeared for all paladins with dragon helms, and the succubi had 80% success rate. Them paladins are just pretending to not be interested. Time to head to the confessional!
In the base game (succubus bonus 11), the "not remotely interested" messages appeared for all paladins with dragon helms, and the succubi had 5% success rate.
So, "not remotely interested" does not mean the unit cannot be seduced. I was incorrect in my post above.
But there is a check for morale 19 or lower, at least in dom3 version 3.15. However, it is just to print the extra "not remotely interested" in the message for the nation who is resisting the seduction.
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