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Baron Munchausen · #11 June 24th, 2002, 06:21 AM

Suspense? I don't read it.

The closest thing I have any interest in is 'mystery' stories but even there I'm old school, as in Sherlock Holmes. Modern stuff is generally stupid and sensationalistic. The only fiction I read with any regularity is Scifi and Fantasy.

The current crop of "SE IV Fiction" on these Boards is quite interesting if a bit simplistic. Of course that's not surprising given the venue.

With thought some of it might be developed into pretty decent stories, though.

geoschmo · #12 June 24th, 2002, 06:33 AM

Well, I can't really speak for King's body of work as a whole. I read The Stand and enjoyed it very much, although I have never read anything else he wrote. I read The Stand not because I like Stephen King, but because I enjoy dark, apocylyptic stories.

The Stand miniseries was not very good, although it had some moments. I just don't think the book could be translated to the screen. I also saw the Langoliers, and that was pretty close to aweful. Four hours long, and just hideous. It might have made a halfway decent 30 minute Twilight Zone episode. You might have even got a 2 hour movie out of it if you stretched it. I have no idea why they tried to drag it out into a miniseries. No suspense in that one at all. And the special effects were even bad by TV standards.

Geoschmo

Jmenschenfresser · #13 June 24th, 2002, 06:53 AM

Don't bother with the great beast of sarcasm Baron...oddly enough, I know of no one who buys King's books, but somehow they have one to lend to you.

Read several, including The Stand (all from the library

).

King's biggest flaw as a writer, or creator of stories, are his endings. There are other faults, but that's the worst.

Come on--a kiddie sex scene in IT to find the correct path in the sewers? The hand of God in the Stand igniting the A-bomb? (being that the endings suck, I can't see how these spoil the them for anyone). It's like he tries to cross a metaphysical ending with a hollywood shootem-up ending....and ends up with lameness in excess.

Right now, I'm reading a stack of Philip Dick novels. When I get to the end of them, I think, "That was pretty good," having at that very moment forgotten that the first 150 pages of it, bored me half to sleep. Like enjoying the flavor of a bite of food only after you've swallowed it. Odd.

dogscoff · #14 June 24th, 2002, 10:01 AM

Stephen King: I agree with Jmen. The endings suck. I liked the whole "rebuilding civilisation" theme in "the Stand", though- I think that would make a cool 4X game: imagine a game where you have to fortify office buildings against bandits and mutants, raid supermarkets and hardware stores for supplies and weapons... It would be very cool. Also enjoyed the Dead Zone, but it's soooo long since I Last read it.

Molly Ringworld... My teenage years missed the 80s, thank god (born '76) but I will confess to really enjoying the film "sixteen candles", which by all rights should be one of the worst films ever made, but somehow entertains me massively every time I see it.
Maybe it's because they only ever show it late at night and I'm generally drunk by then...

Baron Munchausen · #15 June 24th, 2002, 04:52 PM

I thought that 'The Breakfast Club' was the big movie for Molly Ringwald? Isn't that the one that made her a 'star'? But I'm not very interested in celebrities so maybe I'm just mis-remembering.

geoschmo · #16 June 24th, 2002, 05:04 PM

No Baron, you are probably right. Breakfast Club probably had more of an impact on her career. Breakfast Club is another one of those movies that fits the Category of decent movie with a bad performance by Miss Molly.

Personally I liked Breakfast Club better.

I think the diff is Breakfast Club is more of a ensemble thing. All the brat packers had pretty much equal roles. Where Sixteen Canldes she was pretty clearly the center and star of the movie.

Geoschmo

Jmenschenfresser · #17 June 24th, 2002, 05:08 PM

Ringworld's bad acting in Breakfast Club actually works for her playing a stiff, stuck up teen.

geoschmo · #18 June 24th, 2002, 05:15 PM

It funny you say that Mensch, cause I was just coming back to say that I realize it sounds like I really hate Molly Ringworld and I don't. She is probably a really nice person. In fact she may be such a wonderful actress that my negative feelings towards her is actually a transposition of my dislike for the characters that she portrays.

These teenaged, self absorbed, whiney princess types that are so annoying in real life. All of them go through their day acting and putting on a show for everyone around them. Perhaps Molly is just such a good actress that she has captured that artificality so well. Maybe she isn't a bad actress, she just plays one in movies?

How's that for introspection?

Geo

Baron Munchausen · #19 June 24th, 2002, 05:32 PM

Does that mean Stephen King is really a master who can immitate a worthless pulp-fiction hack?

Jmenschenfresser · #20 June 24th, 2002, 05:36 PM

Hmmm...perhaps you have hit on it, Geo. Poor Molly has been type-casted as an actor. The 80's somehow had a fascination with stuck-up, whiney rich girls. It portrayed them as full of themselves and narrow, but the 80's heros always had a soft spot for them.

Now we want them every bit as either stupid or industrious as the hero.

Perhaps this is a win for feminism, but it could possibly have been the death knell of the Last fragments of character development existing in hollywood. And it was certainly bad for Molly.

Can you judge someone's talents who hasn't been invited to the proving grounds?

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