Penetration question - Page 2

vfb · #11 January 15th, 2010, 09:34 AM

It doesn't just do Mind Hunts, you know.

Psycho · #12 January 15th, 2010, 09:47 AM

vfb is wrong, ordinary commanders can cast mind hunt using the black mirror. It's not much useful though, since penetration items have no effect, but at least you don't need to worry about being feebleminded.

You cast mind burn or soul slay, whichever you have researched; it doesn't matter if the caster doesn't have astral paths for the mirror.

Stavis_L · #13 January 15th, 2010, 10:17 AM

Fun trivia fact - a unit can cast mind hunt using the mirror even if they're feebleminded.

Mardagg · #14 January 15th, 2010, 10:35 AM

ah,that makes the item interesting!
thx.

chrispedersen · #15 January 15th, 2010, 04:36 PM

Noone ever builds the black mirror, due to the subject always resisting - earth orbs are safer, better cheaper.

But VFB- do you actually *know* what happens if you build it (and use it)?

vfb · #16 January 15th, 2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen

Noone ever builds the black mirror, due to the subject always resisting - earth orbs are safer, better cheaper.

I've built the Black Mirror. Probably in one of those horrible games that never ends, and just goes on forever, and there are no good artifacts left. By "earth orb" do you mean "stone sphere"?

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen

But VFB- do you actually *know* what happens if you build it (and use it)?

Well, I was wrong about the caster needing S!

I just assumed that.

All the other effects are in the manual, anyone can look it up an see what it does. I never had an opportunity to try out the "dispel illusion", since there's not a whole lot of units with the Illusion tag. You'd need to fight someone with Fata Morgana up, or who like casting MoD, to get any any benefit in battle, probably.

Mardagg · #17 January 15th, 2010, 08:35 PM

great!
Giving advise when you dont know it yourself is just excellent personality,congrats.

I was also assuming that it needs a S mage to use it,you know.
The description of Mind Hunt is not a tough read.
I still asked here because i wanted to make sure.
And the side effect is so minor,that it wasnt worth mentioning...obviously you couldnt resist...again.
Because of your false advise i didnt built it in one of my games that turn.Not sure if i am building it anyways,but still

Frozen Lama · #18 January 15th, 2010, 08:44 PM

Way to be a deuschebag. he was trying to help. when it was brought up on IRC 90% of the people thought what vfb thought. no need to get pissy about it

Mardagg · #19 January 15th, 2010, 08:49 PM

haha,common.
I got history with him in the Nations under CBM thread.
He has been unfriendly to me right from the start.
I actually dont believe therefore he was just trying to be helpful,especially with his 2nd statement here.

Call me what you want frozen,but this guy is either racist vs Germans or i have history with him from Dom2/other games i am not aware of yet.
Its probably the best in the future for him to just ignore me/questions from me like i will do,thats sure.

Frozen Lama · #20 January 15th, 2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardagg

haha,common.

I actually dont believe therefore he was just trying to be helpful,especially with his 2nd statement here.

Umm what? his second statement of "it doesn't jsut do mind hunts you know" ?

umm well yeah, it doesn't just do mind hunts. don't see any nasty comments in that.

and i will assume you were joking about the racist thing and the whole conspiracy theory from dom2.