Overlords - Game Thread. (playing)

[rdonj]

By the way. When you have all the capitols you need, you need to notify everyone and let them know that they have 3 turns to change the situation before they lose.

[Lingchih]

Damn. Ai Jotun left some tough troops in the field. Curse the player that goes Ai with tough troops. He is a slacker.

[Hoplosternum]

Look this storming of my Capital is still probably a couple of turns away at least. I can still win

But while it's fun being crushed by both Baalz (a bit) and Vanheim (a lot) don't you think it's time so of the rest of you attacked one or other of them? I mean none of the rest of you can likely win now but you can still take part

[pyg]

After an amazing assault of the bottom of the graph, Pythium has been eliminated. Kudos to Kianduatha for persistence.

[Baalz]

Since very early in the game Vanheim and R’lyeh have been closely allied with the goal of a joint victory – possible under the rules for an overlord and normal. As we’ve combined got the same gold and gem income as the rest of the world put together (not counting Eriu’s most certain to be dispelled global) I was wondering if anyone would object to conceding to our joint victory? We’ve both been pumping tarts out for some time now, artifacts, elemental royalty, helophagus, etc. Van’s got a huge blood economy and hundreds of vamps following through that dom push, and I’ve got a never ending supply of starspawn and my hoards of lobo guards are now supported with will of the fates + army of lead + will of the fates + fog warriors + weapons of sharpness + darkness. I’m about to wish for a couple gate stones so I can drop that fun wherever supported by teleporting starspawn & fairy queens.

This map is so big though and the victory conditions so steep it’s gonna take a quite annoying amount of time to actually win – particularly trying to coordinate the timing for a joint victory. Does anybody honestly have a prayer of actually stopping us?

[Lingchih]

Ashdod sends it's reply to the request for concession.

"Suck it"

Ashdod does not surrender.

OOC:
I will settle for a draw, as of now, but not concession.

[Lingchih]

To counter, and not just seem like a pain in the butt, I now have Wheels, and will soon have Chayots. On top of my already formidable troops. What you guys are throwing out there, does not really scare me.

[namad]

oh i see what he means... it is technically possible to achieve a joint victory if you prepare all the capitals in such a way that the timers expire on the same turn... although i believe this would require baalz being the only overlord ...

it'd be much easier for vanheim to just try and win right now on his own...



there's no reason we couldn't try and convince vanheim to just win on his own... i know you haven't been planning a joint victory all game because vanheim talked about solo victory earlier in this thread... you've just intimidated him into thinking it isn't possible... but it most likely is...



in fact if lingchih doesn't want to surrender to r'lyeh he can simply try to convince vanheim to throw in with him instead

[namad]

the victory conditions are only steep because you are going for a victory which requires total domination...


if r'lyeh were to stale 6times in a row vanheim would probably just win before you came back.... whereas your joint victory would require what is basically a total domination and several months of work....




it's possible to have a joint victory in utopia too! the victory requirements are 7/18 meaning if a team of two conquers 14/18 vps with the final two both happening at the same time..... i'm sure joint victory has been technically possible in many games

that's basically the same case as in this game

[Baalz]

My assertion is that we have achieved total domination and our plan is to just crush the remaining players and take our time setting up whatever we want. *If* you concede that we can crush everyone else then the argument is moot. If you're pinning your hopes on me staling 6 times in a row or one of us backstabbing the other then I'll ask again for a concession because that's just not gonna happen. I've got no doubt that Ashdod and Eriu and to a lesser extent Marignon can cause some casualties and slow us down - which is the reason I'm asking for a concession rather than just moving for the victory. At this point though I can't imagine any situation where anyone successfully goes on the offense against our combined might - dom push + vamps + leech/l4l spam is gonna make assaulting vanheim a very daunting process before he even does anything fancy, while the bulk of my empire is underwater and massively castled.

In considering my request for concession I'd ask that you not be thinking about how you could fight us off, but to honestly ask yourself if there is any realistic chance at all for you to conquer us. Not one of us, but both of us working closely together. Not raiding some of my land and stalling for a bit or hitting and running Van out of dominion - pushing into our core and defeating us. If you have no realistic chance at doing that (which I honestly believe is the case) then we will eventually win even in the best case (for you) scenario that you stall us a considerable time.

But, if Ling really feels his Chayots are gonna make the difference his opinion is as valid as mine.