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				Anyway, I often get the awful event of plague on my first turn with turmoil, misfortune, death. 
 
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 Heh. "On Death Ground, fight." Yes, that is kind of fun sometimes.
 
Obviously if you're anticipating a lot of plague events it becomes a lot more desirable to overtax.
 
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				Anyway, I often get the awful event of plague on my first turn with turmoil, misfortune, death. 
 
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 Heh. "On Death Ground, fight." Yes, that is kind of fun sometimes.
 
Obviously if you're anticipating a lot of plague events it becomes a lot more desirable to overtax.
 
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		Hmmmm... if you used the points to pump magic into a pretender as a summoning-factory I wonder if it would help.  
 
What summoning spells give bonuses for the number of points in that magic? 
 
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		It works OK with MA Abysia, because they don't get docked income and a Warlock can practically find blood slaves in an empty province.  Not that you have to hunt in empty ones, or even one with <5k pop, but with growth scales the number of >5k increases whereas it goes down with death scales. 
 
No matter, you used up those points on creation so that you could summon max demon knights each time to get you new provinces, as well as giving reinvigorate to your mages, and eventually cast weapons of sharpness and amry of lead on your devils.  Something like that? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		What do you mean a warlock can find blood slaves in an empty province? Do they ignore the population check? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Nah, it was a jest, refering to their ability finding blood slaves due to their 3B. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Warlocks cannot find slaves in an empty province any better than anyone else. 
 
there are three checks to pass: 
 
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1.  40% * blood level to find slaves. 
2.  Pop/5000 % that it worked. 
3.  Unrest / 4 chance to for them to say.. screw you. 
 
So, in an empty province warlocks fail just like anyone else does.  Warlocks are just good blood hunters because they always pass the first test. 
 
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		They get an extra slave per hunt with the SDR.  SDR only costs 5 or 3 with hammer, so, of course you give them a SDR, have some 1B dude that churn them out. 
 
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