Ice Crafter Equipped with Dwarven Hammer

Mysterio · #1 March 19th, 2010, 12:00 PM

I was wondering...does an Ice Crafter, with his inherent 25% Forge Bonus, benefit from the additional 25% Forge Bonus provided by a Dwarven Hammer?

Luckmann · #2 March 19th, 2010, 12:05 PM

I'm not sure, but most things in the game appear to stack, so I'd be surprised if it didn't.

Graeme Dice · #3 March 19th, 2010, 12:07 PM

Yes, just like every other unit with an inherent forge bonus.

Redeyes · #4 March 19th, 2010, 01:18 PM

The total bonus becomes 50%, rounded down - a 5-gem item would cost 2 gems to make, and something that costs 25 a, 15 b would cost 12 a, 7 b.
Setting up efficient crafters is often key in multiplayer games

sansanjuan · #5 March 19th, 2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Graeme Dice

Yes, just like every other unit with an inherent forge bonus.

...and if you have forge of the ancients up ...
Ssj

Redeyes · #6 March 19th, 2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sansanjuan

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Originally Posted by Graeme Dice

Yes, just like every other unit with an inherent forge bonus.

...and if you have forge of the ancients up ...
Ssj

You can get the bonus to -80%, which is the cap

Note that similar bonuses from sites don't stack with each other, even if you have them in the same province, only the strongest bonus will have an effect.

Mysterio · #7 March 19th, 2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeyes

Note that similar bonuses from sites don't stack with each other, even if you have them in the same province, only the strongest bonus will have an effect.

So, if I have an Ice Crafter (25% Forge Bonus) equipped with a Dwarven Hammer (25% FB) forging in a province with The Steel Ovens (20% FB), what would be the total FB? 50% or 70%?

Stavis_L · #8 March 19th, 2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysterio

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Originally Posted by Redeyes

Note that similar bonuses from sites don't stack with each other, even if you have them in the same province, only the strongest bonus will have an effect.

So, if I have an Ice Crafter (25% Forge Bonus) equipped with a Dwarven Hammer (25% FB) forging in a province with The Steel Ovens (20% FB), what would be the total FB? 50% or 70%?

70%.

He's saying that if you have both the Steel Ovens + Banefire Forge (each 20%) you don't get 40%.

Redeyes · #9 March 19th, 2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysterio

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Originally Posted by Redeyes

Note that similar bonuses from sites don't stack with each other, even if you have them in the same province, only the strongest bonus will have an effect.

So, if I have an Ice Crafter (25% Forge Bonus) equipped with a Dwarven Hammer (25% FB) forging in a province with The Steel Ovens (20% FB), what would be the total FB? 50% or 70%?

It would be 70%.

The problem is when you have something like the bottomless site (20%) + ultimate gateway (50%) for conjuration, then only one site (the better one) gives the discount. I use this example because it's a combination I have seen more than once...
Oh, and I realized that the cap isn't quite 80%, it's 1 per pathlevel to craft the item (ergo, 80% for all low level items).

Edit: Ninjas, here?

thejeff · #10 March 19th, 2010, 03:09 PM

I could be wrong, haven't checked this in awhile, but I don't think it's that simple.

The personal bonus and the item bonus stack directly. He'll be at 50% anywhere. I think that sites or the Forge apply their discount to the remaining cost, which would put him around 60% with the ovens, depending on rounding.

There are several long threads on this topic, if you can find them.