Making something out of nothing (Can you turn this into a Thug?)

[Festin]

What about Abyssian Demonbreeds? Both EA and MA are interesting, but mainly the mage version. Is it possible to make a cost-effective thug out of this one?

[Diabl0658]

I found an indi site with that allowed me to recruit gnomes.

I gave them a black heart and a bloodstone each and just dropped them in my opponents capital and had them summon earth elementals during the assassination attempts.

On a related note, astral 9 blesses are the best assassin blesses. No more frozen heart first turn deaths!

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by Diabl0658

On a related note, astral 9 blesses are the best assassin blesses. No more frozen heart first turn deaths!

This is only true if you also gave every assassin a shroud.

[Foodstamp]

Originally Posted by Diabl0658

I found an indi site with that allowed me to recruit gnomes.

I gave them a black heart and a bloodstone each and just dropped them in my opponents capital and had them summon earth elementals during the assassination attempts.

On a related note, astral 9 blesses are the best assassin blesses. No more frozen heart first turn deaths!

That sounds pretty nasty. Is the bless for sacreds you gave the black heart to or actual blessable assassins? If it is the latter, which ones?

[Gregstrom]

Does anyone bar Aby get sacred recruitable assassins?

Edit: C'tis maybe?

[Olive]

And what would you give Skrattis ? I'm actually playing Utgard (sp game) and don't know what would suit them well. I mean, they're obvious thugs, but it's so tempting to give them full equipment. If it's possible to boost them with only a few gems...

Shroud of the Battle Saint seems OK, even with minor blesses (Actually I've a F4A4W4E4S6N4 bless). A pendant of luck too.

Otherwise, I miss ideas of for cheap and efficient items.

Boots of the messenger if no reinvigoration bless ?
If no interesting bless, a robe of shadows ? (but it's 10 pearls and 0 protection).
Frost brand ? But the cold protection will be useless, maybe an enchanted sword to boost att/def.

Shield : I guess a raw hide shield or the cheap astral shield will do the job. Or a lucky coin, it spares the pendant of luck.

That would be 20 N/S gems without forge bonus.

Any better ideas ? With a preference for Utgard's national paths ( S N D W B )

[Olive]

Originally Posted by Gregstrom

Edit: C'tis maybe?

Empoisoners aren't sacred, but have D1N1. Shrouds of the Battle Saint can be easily forged by Shamans.

[Sombre]

Hang on hang on. You can't start talking about skrattis in this thread. You could talk about Jotun scouts maybe. Or shuten doji. Or cavemen chiefs.

[Foodstamp]

Out of the ones listed recently, the Shuten Doji and the Barbarian Chief are two I would be interested in as well .

[Euarchus]

A Caveman Champion with a fleshwound axe (or whatever the 5 blood one is called) and a cheap suit of armour might be some help against the cold giants. Cold resistance 50%, relatively survivable with armour and 20-odd hps, enough strength to hurt the giants, and the axe will leave hopefully leave a fair few of them with chest wounds. 6 gems with a hammer, it's not a massive commitment. Mix them in with smaller troops to take hits and lower giant defence.