Where did my weapon go?

[JonBrave]

[Newb-ish]

• My God started life with a single-handed sword.
• At one point, he took on a double-handed forged sword.
• At a later point, I decided I'd rather have a shield on him. Gave the double-handed to someone else, took the shield.
• Went into battle... with just a fist for weapon (plus shield)

Now, I thought (and assumed, till I noticed otherwise in battle) I had always seen that commanders' original weapons/shields "re-appeared" if the forged item they got replaced by was later removed? Where did this guy's original sword go to?

[Bananadine]

Original weapons do come back, yes. They can become unavailable temporarily, for example when a commander is given a different item (as in your case), or when the commander loses an arm. But if the only thing you did to your commander was to give him a shield, then taking away the shield should restore the sword.

But it does sound strange that a single-handed sword would be replaced in such a way as to leave an empty fist. What kind of unit was your god? What kind of sword was the sword?

[13lackGu4rd]

care to tell us which pretender chassis you chose? the 2 most likely options I can think of without further information are:
1. the sword was 2 handed instead of 1 handed
2. your pretender lost an arm due to affliction

anything else and it's most likely a bug, but the more likely option is 1 of the above.

[JonBrave]

OK, so I think you guys are saying my original sword must have been two-handed... Let me go look...

[JonBrave]

OK, I just re-loaded (had finished & won game, was practicing against Jotun).

I tried dropping the shield. I got a sword back! It was a "No-Dashi", I was on a samurai race god.

So I look at the info/stats by right-clciking. It doesn't say anywhere that it's a two-handed? Now that I look I see length=3, was I supposed to know from that?

[JonBrave]

Originally Posted by JonBrave

OK, I just re-loaded (had finished & won game, was practicing against Jotun).

I tried dropping the shield. I got a sword back! It was a "No-Dashi", I was on a samurai race god.

So I look at the info/stats by right-clciking. It doesn't say anywhere that it's a two-handed? Now that I look I see length=3, was I supposed to know from that?

Now that I come to think of it.... Maybe Samurai guys tend to use two hands in movies... If anyone says I was dumb for not thinking about it, i'll be

[Bananadine]

Swords longer than 2 do tend to be two-handed, yes. But maybe a god is big enough to carry a very large sword in one hand. It seems that this god uses two hands, but there are cases where such large weapons are seemingly used in one hand. I guess you can't really tell what will or won't get replaced until you try it.

I'm playing as Atlantis now, and I just tried giving a shield to a size-3 shambler whose hands are normally occupied by a glaive and a shield. Glaives are usually two-handed, but this unit's picture clearly shows it holding the glaive in one hand and a shield in the other. But when I put on the new shield (a weightless shield, even!), the shambler dropped both its glaive and its old shield, and switched to the fist weapon. So the game isn't even completely consistent in this regard.

[JonBrave]

Thanks to all, at least the behaviour makes sense, I had thought I was mistaken about the original weapon even returning!

With a forged weapon, the right-click tells you how many handed. But it seems that is not on the info when it's an "in-built".

[Edi]

No-Dashi is a Japanese greatsword. The DB lists all the weapons and how many hands are required and that one is two-handed.

[Finalgenesis]

I remember there are cases where 1 handed default weapons gets replaced with fist when you put a shield on him.

hmmm... not a good example (can't think of any other on the spot), I think starspawn's life drain attack turns into a fist when you stick a shield on it. Life drain is 1 handed and not a bonus attack per Edi's DB, so basically a 1 handed weapon.