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February 12th, 2011, 06:40 PM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
This is the raw data only as submitted from the last patch post I submitted. It's been my policy to repost these into their "home" threads for comment or not.
MRAPS and a couple...
A1. ADD: ROMANIA/MAXXPRO DASH/JAN 2011/
C3 (Including gunner.) P6/Turreted 12.7mm w/2KRds/
They will receive 60 units on loan from the U.S., 20 of which are brand new with 40 refurbished and upgraded to meet the newer specs of units now operating in theater by the U.S. These are the better protected more maneuverable U.S. versions since initially deployed in 2007. Expect Romania to keep these as a 'thank you" for serving with the coalition. First units were delivered in Oct 2010 (8) they should have most by now and be trained in their use as well that's why JAN 2011.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/18551/
http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-...ghanistan.html
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...avistar-03344/
http://www.army-technology.com/proje...ash/specs.html
A2. ADD: NIGERIA & UN/GILA/JAN 2008/C2 P10/Turreted 12.7mm UKN Rds & RM 7.62mm UKN Rds./ As noted by the post this again is a CASSPRI on steroids with, much better all around armor protection and mobility. DENAL in fact this past summer has just released the new CASSPIR 4 to compete against the GILA. Also the company website lists that seven countries operate the GILA if I use the AU countries that have supplied troops to DARFUR they would be Cameroon, Egypt, Ethiopia, Malawi, Nigeria, Rwanda, Senegal, Tanzania and Uganda. Though on the post I gave my best guess (Angola and Kenya had troops there at the time of the refs as posted.) of who else has them I can't find anything concrete on them or of any listed above except Nigeria. Only Senegal "reappears" from the first post to now. Nigeria and UN (Canada selected these over the CASSPIR and others in the procurement process for UNADIM.) are the only ones I can say I'm sure of.
Post: Page 8; #75 for pictures as well.
A3. ADD: UK/OCELOT/JUN 2011/P6/RM 12.7mm w/2KRds/
The problem here is that a team of six get to and fight from this vehicle, there is no crew per say, I don't know how you can make this work? Won the UK MOD completion in the LPPV program beating out the Supacat SPV 400.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/20095/
http://www.army-technology.com/news/news103743.html
Posts: Page 7; #68, Page 8; #79 and Page 9; #84 for pictures as well.
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February 21st, 2011, 11:17 AM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
Just my two cents - MRAPs are pieces of garbage. Take my word for it.
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February 22nd, 2011, 12:54 PM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
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Originally Posted by mkr8683
Just my two cents - MRAPs are pieces of garbage. Take my word for it.
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They're good for what they're designed for.
Improved survivability vs IED's while driving on roads.
Only reporters and civilians think they're a suitable replacement for APC's / IFV's.
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February 27th, 2011, 03:59 PM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
The news of the past week.
As one of my first posts, THALES has delivered it's two prototypes of the HAWKEI in Australia's LAND 121 program. Other competitors include the OCELOT and EAGLE. I believe a decision is due this year if memory serves.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/22384/
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March 26th, 2011, 10:09 PM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
News of the last couple of weeks.
When you break sells records, you can afford a few toys.
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20110311/162951763.html
From the "DID" site.
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April 25th, 2011, 02:35 PM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
News of the LW+:
Paramount of S. Africa asked to bring a couple of their vehicles to several S. American countries for evaluations. Marauder has already been reported on in this thread.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/23744/
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July 23rd, 2011, 03:43 AM
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Re: MRAPs
A little something for those "MRAPpers" out there.
1. Nordic issues and the MRAP shortage. As was posted to the APC thread today as well.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...70&c=FEA&s=SPE
2. As posted to the APC and MBT threads today. So many MRAPs and nowhere to put them! In the short term refer yourself back to
#1.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...71&c=FEA&s=SPE
That's it been kinda quite out there in this area-sorry!
Need a shower, some sleep before the grind later today (At least it's my TGIF!!). Have a great weekend! IF ANY OF YOU ARE EXPREINCING ANY COOL SUMMER WEATHER, PLEASE SEND IT TO A CERTAIN NAVSUBASE IN SE GA. THANKS!!
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I do like Cartman well, at least until they bombed Canada!?!
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July 28th, 2011, 04:06 AM
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Re: MRAPs
I was pissed when they took away our HumVees and gave them to the Iraqis. We got issued MRAPs with no extra protection on them, until a crew in our 1st platoon was hit by an EFP, killing one and wounding two. I hope that whoever was responsible for not getting us the up-armor package in time did not sleep afterwards.
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August 21st, 2011, 11:53 PM
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Re: MRAPs
Taking a break from the list after a long break from it as well. Just think Bananarama "It's a cruel, cruel summer." Anyway if you get BBC America TOP GEAR starts back up again Mon. night and I understand they will put Paramount's MATADOR through it's paces. See page 8 Post #75. Azerbaijan is the only country user also they're a licenced manufacturer.
1. DENAL is ready for full production of the CASSPIR MK6 their answer to the GILA (Also in Post #75.). Look to the SAF as being it's first user given their long history with the CASSPIR. The CASSPIR can trace it's lineage back to the early 70's with the SAF HIPPO, probably the first vehicle to embrace the concept of the MRAP.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2256.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/south...s_picture.html
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/26950/
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September 25th, 2011, 09:42 PM
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Re: MRAPs
Well it started that I wasn't going to have anything to offer here, then I remembered about A1. from researching the new LEOPARD 7A1+ from the 2010/2011 campaign, made an offer and honored the request (British Huskey Thread by obreedon) and found another. Just before and after posting the 1st Patch Post I came across three more to be added to my next PP. One of which I recently just posted on (And not to the country of origin.) and another that'll go to I believe five countries total. Both linked to the same country. So that's the news part and here's the PP segment...
MRAPS
Nothing much happening here right now except for the below item. The sector has been very busy in the area of orders for existing equipment. The only other new piece of equipment to fit this category is Paramount’s MATADOR & MAURADER (Pg. 8 Posts #75 & 76.) however Aberbazan is not in the game and they are currently the only operators of these vehicles which some have dubbed "the best in their class". The deal with Jordan never got done. See Posts # for further information.
A1. ADD/NORWAY/DINGO 2/JAN 2011/C1 P7/ARROWS-300 FULL SYSTEM ROT w/40mmHV AGL Rds UKN & M3S 12.7mm w/300RDs./See Ref 3 which shows the turret as described and ordered by Norway./
The DINGO 2 is a much improved version of the DINGO 1 that's better protected and much more mobile.
http://defense-update.com/wp/20101029_dingo_norway.html
http://www.kmweg.de/2922-YWt0X3BhZ2U...ws_detail.html
http://www.kmweg.de/2922-ZG9tPWRvbTE...ws_detail.html
http://www.army-technology.com/proje...rotecetedvehi/
http://www.armedforces-int.com/artic...on-system.html
Also Pg.6 Post #51.
A2. ADD/UK/HUSKEY/JUN 2009/P4 RECON-SPEC OP versions/RWS 12.7mm w/UKN Rds./C2 P2 for Transport, Command or Ambulance versions./Also known as the MXT. The Recon-Spec Op versions are up armored from the others and since all retain the bed portion of the vehicle besides extra fuel and other gear to cause the enemy some havoc, I'm sure there's plenty of room for ammo, I would think 1500 - 2000 Rds would not be unreasonable in this case. This vehicle represents the third in the triad of better protected vehicles UK MOD had sought to lower the causality rates of the ones used prior to them which is why Ref. A is where it's at.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6695154.ece
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/husky-tsv/
http://www.army-technology.com/proje...tsv/specs.html
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...178/#more-5178
http://www.defencetalk.com/work-begi...sh-army-17274/
Pics:
Well I did say this was a living document...
A3. ADD/POLAND/ZUBR/JUN 2011/C2 P10/RWS 12.7mm or optional 7.62mm and 30mm AGL w/UKN Rds. /SPro 4 grenade dispensers. /This vehicle is available in four variants two of which will be addressed here. The ZUBR has protection against 12.7mm rounds and arty shell splinters. Also it has a tow capacity of 3,300lbs (1500kgs) a feature not normally mentioned in the refs. Blast protection against up to 8kg. It is also air portable.
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/zubr-apc/
http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor...p?armor_id=451
http://www.military-today.com/apc/zubr_mrap.htm
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Again pics for these are in the PP Thread. The ZUBR were still in my files.
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Pat
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