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				 Peace_and_Love, no diplo, gaming 
 map: sixlandsera: early
 hosting: llamaserver, 24 hrs from start, then increase only at consensus. tolerance to RL.
 mods: CBM 1.94
 players: 6
 diplomacy: not allowed
 victory: consensus
 
 this is intended to be a faster paced game, just like a quick game versus 5 smart AIs. if u tend to be the last person sending ur turns in or if u have the tendency to nearly always send ur turns in just before the deadline, please join other games instead.
 
 Pretenders must be sent in WITHIN 24 HOURS of posting the application here to make the application valid. (to avoid dragging the start out for weeks).
 
 If u join this game please keep fighting until u can, dont quit too early. on the other hand we wont spend too much time looking for subs, if u are in a hopeless situation, just turn the AI on.
 
 We are waiting for competent players with some experience.
 
 good luck and much fun to everyone!
 
 (* denotes unsent pretenders)
 
 fantomen : Sauromatia
 Psisoldier:Pangaea
 keithz   : Ermor
 harmonius: C'tis
 starcryst: Helheim
 earcaraxe: Lanka
 
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				December 20th, 2012, 12:26 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Peace_and_Love, no diplo, recruiting 1/6 
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				December 20th, 2012, 02:30 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by earcaraxe  diplomacy: not allowed in any formvictory: consensus
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				December 20th, 2012, 03:55 PM
			
			
			
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				December 20th, 2012, 05:04 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Peace_and_Love, no diplo, recruiting 1/6 
 That only works if the admin is not playing in the game and is considered impartial by all participants. 
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				 Re: Peace_and_Love, no diplo, recruiting 1/6 
 Except the fact that through this voting the playing admin would have an ongoing flow of information about which nation is considered the most powerful by everyone else, effectively increasing his strategical knowledge.
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				December 20th, 2012, 07:07 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Peace_and_Love, no diplo, recruiting 1/6 
 one would think the esteemed Dr. EarWax would have taken all of the psychological issues and their impact on the game into accout.  |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Peace_and_Love, no diplo, recruiting 2/6 
 on the other hand, i dont want the make the victory conditions more complicated than necessary, i have admined several no diplo games, and determinig the winner never was a serious problem. On this map in most cases there is a final, deciding war between the 2 strongest nations, and thats it. if someone prefers to avoid the uncertainity of the incompleteness/inconsistency of the rules, please join one of my other, more defined, diplo games instead. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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