About green dragon

[Immaculate]

Putting them back to dom1 will make it the way it was before- the dragons simply won't get used very much because they are so expensive.

Is it so bad the way it is? Maybe the red and blues should get base dom 2 also?

I'd rather see them all get a dominion bonus to 2 (they are dragons after all). I don't think this is unbalanced.

Maybe i am wrong.

[Corinthian]

I do think that the other dragons are useful even today. Because despite what people here say, all the dragons can expand on turn 1 without awe. As long as you only expands towards type-less provinces that is. Dark vines will do you in no mater what kind of awe you got. This is not my musing. I have tested this in SP dozens of times and done it successfully in MP twice as well. In none of these tests the dragon died or was defeated.

As for the other dragons, the blue one is the weakest I think. Though it have AOE 5, not 3. The fire dragon is highly useful because he is one of few thing in the current CBM that can summon Zmeys cheaply and quickly. He only needs F4 if he can get the death/fire booster. F5 otherwise. Zmeys require F6 currently.

[Gandalf Parker]

The thing I miss about the dragons is that the Blue Dragon used to be aquatic. That was a useful feature at the time.

[parone]

yeah homer, these ideas are very helpful, especially for a guy like me that seems to kill dragons regularly.

when i said other pretenders might be considered better 'expanders' i just meant that those with free spawn might be able to build separate expo groups while expanding themselves, not that they were better solo-ing.

unfortunately, while i do think this is possible, i have yet to do it effectively...

[JonBrave]

Originally Posted by Corinthian

The fire dragon is highly useful because he is one of few thing in the current CBM that can summon Zmeys cheaply and quickly. He only needs F4 if he can get the death/fire booster. F5 otherwise. Zmeys require F6 currently.

Sorry, don't follow. Am summoning my first Zmeys in CBM 1.92 and they require an F4 to cast. They're in Conjuration Level 6 to research if that's what you mean, but I don't think so, and I don't see any F5 anywhere...

[parone]

Jon-

it got to the point that everybody was summoning Zmeys, so in the most recent CBM, it was nerfed by being moved up to a F5 spell(and maybe made more expensive? i can't remmember)

[JonBrave]

...Blimey, do you mean my CBM 1.92 is not latest version?? Doesn't it auto-update?

[parone]

LOL. does anything automatically update on Dominions?

no. i think we are up to 1.96 now.

there was also a patch not too long ago(i had to apply it to play MP, but im really not sure what it patched, to be honest)

[parone]

actually, i just checked it, and it is a F6 spell. don't want to spread misinformation...

[JonBrave]

Thanks. Typical: my first play of CBM and summoning Zmeys, no wonder they were so attractive! Now I feel guilty for summoning them cheaply... Will upgrade to latest CBM for next game.