Anyone play without mods?

Elowan · #1 August 11th, 2002, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by evader:
I don't use whole mods my self. I make tweeks to data files. Decrease cost here, change size there. Maybe take some ideas from other mods like new systems or formations but don't ever realy add a full blown mod. Who else plays it like this?

That's basically how I play but I'm intrigued with the Proportions mod.

oleg · #2 August 11th, 2002, 06:45 PM

Evader, I think this is how most mods originated: some tweak here and there, add something, balance some weapons. You will not notice before you'll have full Devnull mod in your hands

Proportions is indeed very different. It turns whole SE4 gameplay upside down and it is obvious that PvK made it in revolutionary, not evolutionary way.

capnq · #3 August 11th, 2002, 08:12 PM

A quick survey of my Savegame folders:

Straight v1.67 - seven solo games, 1 Play-By-Web, two scenarios (which are technically mods).

v1.67 + TDM-ModPack - 3 solo games

v1.67 + DevNullModGold,
v1.67 + my Hypermaze,
v1.67 + my Hypermaze plus experimental tweaks,
v1.67 + Pirates & Nomads,
v1.67 + Proportions - 1 solo game each

v1.49 + TDM-ModPack - 1 PBW

I still find the unmodded game interesting enough that I don't feel a strong urge to explore the tech mods.

Fyron · #4 August 12th, 2002, 12:41 AM

Most PBW games use vanilla SE4.

evader · #5 August 12th, 2002, 01:30 AM

I don't use whole mods my self. I make tweeks to data files. Decrease cost here, change size there. Maybe take some ideas from other mods like new systems or formations but don't ever realy add a full blown mod. Who else plays it like this?

Raging Deadstar · #6 August 12th, 2002, 01:36 AM

Yeah but thats only cos i'm working the with demos right now, god why did i lend out my SEIV full game? WHY? It's kinda fun when u make all the racial traits cost nothing lol

Baron Grazic · #7 August 12th, 2002, 06:51 AM

One day when I get sick of the Standard Game, I'll switch to a mod, but that day still hasn't arrived, even after 12 months.

dogscoff · #8 August 12th, 2002, 02:15 PM

I love the standard game, but I played Proportions a few months back and now I'm hooked. All my vsAI are proportions these days. It will take something really special to drag me away from that. (Derek's Mod?)

oleg · #9 August 12th, 2002, 02:20 PM

My only gripe with Proportions is damn pacifist AI - reflection of PvK philosophy, I guess

For my games I copied AI_anger and politicics files from corresponding TDM races. Now I have a really bloodthirsty Sergetti and Crystoline !

dogscoff · #10 August 12th, 2002, 02:49 PM

I'm in a really cool vsAI game at the moment where I started in the same system as a xenophobic neutral (ClukRuk) - they declared on me immediately (as did all the other neutrals I've met since) and have been really making my life difficult, because it's hard for mee to get those slow colonisers out of the system. Without extra- system resources I can't out-produce him and if I can't do that I can't beat him.

I managed to overwhelm his fleets using boarding parties (heheheheh=-) but all the captured ships sent me bankrupt! Now I've had to mothball loads of space stations and freeze most of my construction queues while I try to ramp up my resource production. Maybe then I can knock out his defence stations and land some troops.

All this has taken 50 or 60 turns - you just wouldn't get that kind of epic campaign in a standard game- especially against a neutral.