OOB 35 Finland – some weapon confusion

[TDR]

I was having a quick look at the Finnish OOB before looking at making a scenario.
I noted 2 oddities that tend to be somewhat confusing:

In the Units table there is the following:
Unit no: #44
Name: 75mm M40 AT-Gun
Dates: 6/43 – 12/43

If this is the Finnish purchased German 7.5 cm Pak 40, should not the dates be 6/43 – 12/46.
Or have I mixed this with some other AT gun?

In the Weapons table and with various units there is this:
Weapon no: #93
Weapons name: M30 Rifle Gren
Looking at the various units with this weapon it has a date range of 1/37 – 12/46.

I am unsure what this rifle grenade is.
Is it the Dyakonov's grenade launcher that entered service with the Soviet Army about 1920 – 1930, or something else?

I can not find anything on the M30 Rifle Grenade to clarify what it is exactly.
Simply what is it?

[DRG]

Originally Posted by TDR

I was having a quick look at the Finnish OOB before looking at making a scenario.
I noted 2 oddities that tend to be somewhat confusing:

In the Units table there is the following:
Unit no: #44
Name: 75mm M40 AT-Gun
Dates: 6/43 – 12/43

If this is the Finnish purchased German 7.5 cm Pak 40, should not the dates be 6/43 – 12/46.
Or have I mixed this with some other AT gun?

In the Weapons table and with various units there is this:
Weapon no: #93
Weapons name: M30 Rifle Gren
Looking at the various units with this weapon it has a date range of 1/37 – 12/46.

I am unsure what this rifle grenade is.
Is it the Dyakonov's grenade launcher that entered service with the Soviet Army about 1920 – 1930, or something else?

I can not find anything on the M30 Rifle Grenade to clarify what it is exactly.
Simply what is it?

re 75mm M40 AT-Gun.....SEE POST #4

As for the M30 Rifle Grenade. It will be the Dyakonov

You say

Looking at the various units with this weapon it has a date range of 1/37 – 12/46.

I say you are incorrect. It is available to the Finns from 1930


users of weapon ID 93 M30 Rifle Gren:
166 - Ski Pioneers - uClass 166 : slot 3 - Available 01/030 to 12/041
170 - Engineer Squad - uClass 020 : slot 3 - Available 01/030 to 12/041
181 - Rifle Squad - uClass 001 : slot 4 - Available 01/037 to 12/040
183 - Rifle Squad - uClass 001 : slot 4 - Available 01/041 to 12/044
187 - Rifle Squad - uClass 001 : slot 4 - Available 01/045 to 12/049
190 - Jaeger Squad - uClass 162 : slot 4 - Available 01/037 to 12/040
192 - Jaeger Squad - uClass 162 : slot 4 - Available 01/041 to 12/044
196 - Jaeger Squad - uClass 162 : slot 4 - Available 01/045 to 12/049
204 - Rifle Squad - uClass 040 : slot 4 - Available 01/041 to 12/044
206 - Rifle Squad - uClass 040 : slot 4 - Available 01/045 to 12/049
214 - Jaeger Squad - uClass 163 : slot 4 - Available 01/041 to 12/044
216 - Jaeger Squad - uClass 163 : slot 4 - Available 01/045 to 12/049
265 - Bicycle Squad - uClass 172 : slot 4 - Available 01/037 to 12/040
267 - Bicycle Squad - uClass 172 : slot 4 - Available 01/041 to 12/044
271 - Bicycle Squad - uClass 172 : slot 4 - Available 01/045 to 12/049
279 - Bicycle Squad - uClass 179 : slot 4 - Available 01/041 to 12/044
281 - Bicycle Squad - uClass 179 : slot 4 - Available 01/045 to 12/049
321 - Bunker - uClass 000 : slot 4 - Available 01/040 to 12/044

[TDR]

Thank you for your clarification re the M30 Rifle Grenade.

[DRG]

CORRECTION

in the units table there is the following:
Unit no: #44
name: 75mm m40 at-gun
dates: 6/43 – 12/43

if this is the finnish purchased german 7.5 cm pak 40, should not the dates be 6/43 – 12/46.
Or have i mixed this with some other at gun?

My response that you had found and old "error" was premature and it occured to me later why

There are TWO Finn 75mm M40 AT-Guns

You found the first one ( unit 44 ) with the lower Sabot and HEAT round count that ends 12/43 but then Unit 136 with a higher Sabot and HEAT round count takes over and runs 1/44-12/46

No correction to 44 will be made

[TDR]

Fine.
Solves the problem..

[blazejos]

Just thinking Finland should be a second country with Russians aero-sani sledge vehicles in their arsenal. They were used first time in war with Finland in 1939/1940 and judging from photos they captured a lot of them from soviets. Here album with finish aerosans https://www.militaryimages.net/threa...nter-war.5840/

[DRG]

Originally Posted by blazejos

Just thinking Finland should be a second country with Russians aero-sani sledge vehicles in their arsenal. They were used first time in war with Finland in 1939/1940

They start Jan 1942 not during the 1939/1940 winter war and they have had the Jan 1942 start date for decades

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RF-8

This diminutive vehicle entered service in January 1942 and it is thought approximately 2000 were built throughout the war period.

https://en.topwar.ru/117296-rasskazy...ni-nkl-26.html

NKL-16 snowmobiles were widely used on the fronts of World War II, especially in the 1941 / 42 winter.