Odd Racial/Unique Tech Reqs

Fyron · #1 September 3rd, 2002, 02:12 AM

I've made some components that require a technology that is not itself racial or unique, but that requires a racial or a unique technology to be researched. When I play a high tech start game, I do not have the technologies available, but I can build the components. They are not available on a low tech start. For example, I have created a Version of Organic Armor that can be developed and used by a non-organic race if they capture a ship with normal OA. I added a new technology called Organic Armor, which is not racial. But, it's req, Organic Engineering, is. When playing on a high-tech start, I have the "stolen" Version of Organic Armor available to be built on a ship, but I do not have the Organic Armor technology. I am confused by this.

Matryx · #2 September 3rd, 2002, 02:58 AM

I believe that when you pick "high start" it automatically gives you *every* tech you could possibly research. Even if you don't have the prerequisits for it.
I suggest playing a mid-tech start but modding the rest of the tech levels to give you full access to the rest of the technology from that starting place.

Fyron · #3 September 3rd, 2002, 03:19 AM

High-tech starts aren't much fun anyways.

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I suggest playing a mid-tech start but modding the rest of the tech levels to give you full access to the rest of the technology from that starting place.

Huh?

Matryx · #4 September 4th, 2002, 02:59 AM

Edit the techareas.txt and change "RaiseLevel" to "Max Level" for everything except for the tech areas which you don't want to start off with.
Then start with a mid-tech game.
That should sort it.
Sorry for the confusing reply

Fyron · #5 September 4th, 2002, 05:31 AM

I don't want to start with them, or play a high-tech start game. I was just testing other high-tech components.

javaslinger · #6 September 4th, 2002, 06:54 PM

I would say this, a high tech start certainly is a completely different game.... Having finished very few games of SEIV, I haven't seen most of the finished techs anyway. I've got no idea what to do with them all!

Suicide Junkie · #7 September 4th, 2002, 07:39 PM

OK: OA requires "organic armor" which requires "Organic technology" (Racial).

In a high tech game, you get "organic armor" but it dosen't show up... but where?

It won't show up in your research window, since it is a Type B, and you cannot research this tech area.
It should appear as an option for trade, and it should appear in your help, available components, political report, and everywhere else.

If you were to make it a Type C tech, then it would show up in your research window.

Note:
Type A = Racial
Type B = non racial, racial prereq
Type C = not racial, non racial prereq, pre-prerequisites do not matter.

Puke · #8 September 4th, 2002, 07:47 PM

hey, thats a good idea. i have often wished racial techs could be captured or shared, and i think other people have too.

Fyron · #9 September 4th, 2002, 09:00 PM

SJ, Organic Armor doesn't show up in the research window, but the components are available to be built.

Suicide Junkie · #10 September 4th, 2002, 09:59 PM

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SJ, Organic Armor doesn't show up in the research window, but the components are available to be built.

I believe that IS what I said...

Type Bs can't be researched, only stolen. Therefore they do not show up in the research window.

If you want it to show in the research window, change it to a type C.
EG: Racial -> Normal -> Normal -> O.A component.