MP Game - Graeme's New Game

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Wendigo:
So you believe that you can insult him in public and he has no right to defend himself? This is bull**** Graeme. If you do not want him in your game say so without going into name calling.

Which, as you'll notice, is exactly what I did until people started telling me that I should let him in. I simply sent him a PM that he wasn't welcome, and confirmed that he was not playing in the game before that.

Besides, nothing of what went on in that game amounts to cheating acording to the stuff that has been displayed in the relevant threads.

Yes, it does qualify as cheating to me, and I really don't want to have to discuss it any further.

-So he joined a game under a different alias, so what? is that cheating in your book?

Joining under an alias falls into a very gray area. Lying about your identity when asked about it in order to gain information on a game _is_ cheating.

-So he got some info out of SB regarding the game in a chat forum? nobody is to blame from that save SB that did not keep his mouth shut, he was not tortured for that info, right?
Is that cheating?

Yes, it is cheating, since he lied about being the player in the game. It was Norfleet's responsibility to inform people that he was playing, and he failed to do so. That makes him a cheater.

If NF got that info out of some other player in the game via an in-game backstab would that have amounted to cheating?

No, since that wouldn't have been using his alias to cover his true identity.

You cannot make a distinction between in-game lying & out-of-game lying when diplomacy is most often than not done via e-mail.

Of course you can. He didn't disguise his plans in the game, he lied about even being a player in the game.

A couple lies however, is _not_ cheating in a game that allows diplomacy. Whether those lies were in-game or not is irrelevant so long as you do not set in stone that all diplomacy must be conducted via the in-game messaging.

He lied about his identity when specifically asked about it. He lied about it in a situation where he should have specifically stated that he was playing in the game.

So, drop the name calling. If you do not trust NF, just say so & move on, but do not be surprised if the guy shows up to defend himself.

If you read the thread, you'd notice that that is exactly what I did. I didn't even explain myself until some person decided that I should have to defend my decision to exclude Norfleet.