Proposition: Zen vs. Norfleet

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Zen:
I have heard the same about older women and crotchety old men, who claim cheating or any other reasoning for their own loss instead of just the way the game goes.

Actually, it's with young folk where this is most prevalent, especially teens. Most older folk are aware of their limitations, at least the ones that play games (gamers are by no means "average" or representative examples of the population at large).

By the by, being an older woman myself, and consistently always losing to you, I have never, ever, claimed you were cheating or any other reason for losing than that you simply outmaneuvered me, had better tactics, or simply knew the game far better than I. If I were to play Norfleet, I would not claim that I lost because his VQ is unfair/unbalanced. I would lose because he has a better strategy and knows how to play his strategy/nation better than I know mine. Whether he's impossible to beat is highly debateable. What is a fact is that I am not prepared to do so (and may never be).

The original motivation, methinks, for the creation of this thread (besides educating us inferior players) is to see if another expert player (Zen) could defeat Norfleet's Ermor strategy. The only real way to have known if the VQ was unbalanced (as well as clams, etc.) was to have played on a "level" playing field where two players, both experts at the game, battled it out.

That such a match is unlikely to occur is a great loss to the entire Dom 2 community.