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Cainehill said:
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Boron said:
i think vampire lords with vampires are TOO ALLROUND .
they are good against almost everything and if you need to defend they are really great too .
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Actually, given your previous Posts mentioning clam hoarding and using the wish spell, it sounds like Wish is the thing that is too powerful, because you can make any number of very highly overpowered late game strategies using it.
Which is why, I believe, there's an official mod that removes Wish from the game. End of problem. 
Without Wish, you don't have a relatively cheap way to boost all your magic paths, you don't have the incentive to put high astral magic on your (typically immortal) pretender, and it becomes quite difficult to have _all_ the spells, items, and summonses you're talking about.
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removing wish would be really bad because it disadvantages those nations for which it was designed more likely too much .
especially ryleh + atlantis are those nations .
abysia + mictlan can get a pretty high blood hunt blood income too .
so not wish is the real problem but that vampire lords are just too cheap .
all in all it is a combo :
-blood is easy aquireable
-clams are good
-with the astral pearls from clams wish becomes quite useful
-one of the best wishes is wishing for blood
-vampire lords are probably the nonunique bloodsummon with the highest RoI
all these facts play into the strength of vampires .
every nation can start making clams midgame when you summon a few spectres .
the only other thing which is similiar effective because it is too cheap is massproducing tartarians in combination with healing + goring the good ones and turning them into SCs .