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		| Caduceus said: Griping about the new version is nothing new.  These are threads from six years ago, on the eve of and just after SE:IV release:
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 Reference B
 
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 Anyway, you get the idea.  The community is bigger than ever and we don't even have the full game in our hands yet.
 
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 Right, by the numbers.
A and B are quibbling about gameplay details.
C is about GOLD, not the SE4 launch.
D is *****ing about the AI.
Nowhere in any of those threads is anybody saying "The UI sucks. It's too clumsy, clunky and click-intensive. The ship design is needlessly complex and click-intensive; there is no reason at all to have multiple decks in the ship design screen, none."
Yet those are exactly the things we are saying about SE5.