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Old August 7th, 2009, 09:54 PM

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Default Ideas on Improving Russian ORBAT (Infantry)

This thread's only for Russia's infantry ORBAT.

First question I have is - what's with all the trucks? I don't see that many trucks in most other ORBATs. Yes, the Russian forces are the World's most mobile forces, but that doesn't mean that every single possible truck formation has to be included. For instance take the Machine Gun: You have 3 Machine Gun units, and sixteen possible combination to cover them, at least one of which has never been used, the one with 2 GAZ-66 trucks transporting 12 machine-gunners. It may have been improvised in the heat of battle, but that would never be a starting position for the Russians. Those sixteen slots can easily be reduced to two, and if whoever is playing wants the vehicles, he/she can get them from the Armor ORBAT. Similar stuff could be said about AGTMs.

On the other hand, why does SpetzNatz only get two slots? In Russia there are multiple ways to combine SpetzNatz. For instance SpetzNatz Scouts can work separately, they're not always together. But an even bigger issue arises with the SpetzNatz Group. Although the way it's presented is perfectly realistic, there are a multitude other combination that I can think of. Light Commando SpetzNatz units can operate on their own. Also a formation of two Light Commando SpetzNatz units and Commando Support is possible. Or same formation with Commando Engineers instead of Commando Support. Or both. SpetzNatz are trained to operate with just their own squads should the need arise.

I don't know, it just seems, well odd, that machine guns have more formations than SpetzNatz. Also, for SpetzNatz, the first and fouth Light Infantry are exactly the same, and the 2nd and 3rd support units are identical.

Anyways, let me know if you guys want me to rant more. I mean the Russian ORBAT here is well designed, it has the right units, just the weirdest combinations that I've seen.
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