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Old June 19th, 2011, 09:06 AM

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Now, before I start posting all my opinions I want to thank you for the magnificent work you've done. I know Finns have been loud in this forum before and nitpicking all the details they perceive should be changed, but this time I come back with some evidence.

Finnish defence forces is in progress of updating their equipment pages, starting with SAM:

Finnish defence forces AA missiles.

Finnish OOB unit 350 and unit 353, Pasi Crotale and Pasi Crotale M respectively, availability dates are a bit early. FDF specifies it was modernized during 2009-2010, therefore maybe 350 should be available until 12/2010, 353 available from 1/2009, representing the transition period. Or then just 1/2009 as the transition phase.

Also the ItO 05M specifies that they're using BOLIDE, a slight inconsistence as OOB specifies ammunition as RBS-70 II, where Bolide is the upgraded version of Mk 2. No information is given when they moved on to Bolide exclusively. Therefore, unit 207 RBS-70 SAM and 352 Bandvagn RBS-70 => Change weapon 1 to Bolide?

I also remember reading that Finland was not going to modernize the BMP-2 anymore (re: 033, BMP-2FIN), but I can't find any reliable references for that. I'll post here if I can find them, but IIRC they're opting for getting more CV 9030s instead.

Unit 112, AGS-17. Finland decommissioned the weapon for unreliable ammunition after an incident that took a life of a reservist. In finnish machine translation.

Instead, KrKK 05 was introduced quickly and AGS-17 is no longer in use. Still, unit 574 AGL Nest is only using AGS-17, should probably be available only until 12/2004 and then another unit using KrKK 05 available from 1/2005. Maybe the names for weapons could be consistent, too. AGL in Finnish military web pages in 2007

ENTER WISHLIST

Please also include the Guard Jaegars, the way you think it'd be best. Guard Jaegars are trained for fighting in built areas, and are using equipment not available at normal Jaegar units (yet). I remember testing night vision stuff during my conscription in 1999.
Some of the equipment and actions can be seen in this video (In Finnish) (jump to 2:25 if you will)
What's different (all these are also available for special jaegar units):
- Shrapnel protection vest with added plates
- Optics, red dot sights (at least since 2005)
- Tactical radios
- Access to grenade pistols
- Access to shotguns (mostly Guard MPs)

What I think could be done:
Copy from ordinary jaegars, maybe change the unit class to Guards Infantry, if the added bonuses aren't strange or out-of-place.
+1 morale for the radios and the warm feeling of security from wearing a shrapnel vest
+3..5 to weapon accuracy from optics
Possibility for weapon combinations, including shotguns and grenade pistols
Add a support platoon or two, 95 RCL M, KrKK 05 or Mortars
Vehicles: Pasi XA-185, trucks


Special Jaegars should also have access to red dot sights.

Last edited by dmnt; June 19th, 2011 at 09:10 AM.. Reason: Fixed those broken tags.
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