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Default Polish and Bulgarian OOBs

OK, there were some strange changes since 6.0 version of the game. I will point them out and give few suggestions:

POLAND:
1. What happened to PT-91 Twardy tank (formation eg. 71, Unit 21 and 711)? Its power was dramatically decreased. Can get the info where you found actual (current) armor data and - first of all - the efficiency of the main gun? My knowledge about SABOT ammunition is very low, but let me quote polish source:
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In use are rounds 3WBM3, 3WBM6, 3WBM7, 3WBM8 (AP, SABOT, cored with core manufactured from cemented carbide), Ryś (AP/SABOT, cored with wolfram core), 3WBK7, 3WBK10 (HEAT) i 3WOF22 (HE-Frag). All types of rounds fired from 2A46 are stabilized by [hard to translate, literally... stabilizer, part characteristic for airplanes, at tail].
Hope this helps somehow.

Then, front and side armor is laminated, rest is standard composite one. Additional steel side screens can be attached. ERAWA ERA has ability to reflect radar scanning what makes that tank harder to be spotted. I cant say much for Drawa FCS, can do deeper research if you like!

Idea: Units 21 and 711 should have both steel and anti-HEAT armor pretty much increased. Their gun (weapon 161) SABOT ammunition should be ore efficient. Should I do greater research and propose the numbers here?

2. I know that BWP-1 is the only IFV for tracked infantry, but any chance for bringing back test equipment, especially Puma variant? Could be added like for 2015+ only with low AI chance of buying it.
Idea: Bring Unit 999 (BWP-1 Puma RCWS) of OOB 2 as available since 2015+

3. According to my sources, at the moment Poland owns around 50 Carl Gustav launchers, while nearly all of them are for GROM service. I dont get it why every mechanized unit uses that weapon. We use RPG-7 all the time with our own warheads, Dezamet-invented. Suggestion: Mountain Infantry uses RPG-7MT and that weapon should be provided for great but great majority of the forces.
Idea: OOB 2 units ALL CONTAINING "84mm C Gustaf" should be taken away Gustav (Weapon 214) and replaced by RPG-7MT (Weapon 152) IN EXCEPTION OF Unit 640, 641, 642, 643

4. Dezamet produces advanced warheads since early '80s. I dont understand why LWP lost PG-7VL (penetration of 50cm as far as I know remember) to favour of PG-7V warhead (33-35cm pen). This touched most of late cold war era units, no sense giving all possible IDs here.
Idea: Suggested switching RPG-7 --> RPG-7V for OOB 2 Units: too much to list, would have to edit OOB on the run

5. LWP lost PKM and uses UKM-2000 for no reason in SOME of mechanized sections. Check this out, I guess its just a simple error.
Idea: Units affected are Unit 330 and 331 (formations eg. 230, 231, 224 or 225). Switch UKM-2000 --> PKM (weapon 016 to weapon 013)

6. Currently due to lack of money upgrade of Mi-24 optics is halted. Still, it may start by an moment so I suggest adding also TI version of the Mi-24W, with lower chance of AI selecting that one.
Idea: Unit 125 (Mi-24W) should receive its TI counterpart without editing the unit itself.


BULGARIA (OOB 87):
List is shorter here!

1. It is more than 20 years since fall of communism and Bulgaria still disposes the Experience and Morale 55/60. They participate in NATO missions, are fully professionalized now and trained by various nations including US. In my opinion at the beginning of XXI Century their skills should seemingly increase.
Idea: I suggest 65 Experience and 65 Morale for Bulgaria since year 2001.

2. Bulgaria has pretty decent SF force (brigade sized). Would be nice to add these units to make the roster richer since next patch.
Idea: Addition of SF Units as new units into ORBAT.

3. Bulgaria uses around 100-150 BMP-1s all the time. For unknown reason these were removed from the army in SPMBT around year 1990. Should be brought back and actually held even till 2020. I know nothing about plans of scrapping them.
Idea: Unit 065 (BMP-1) should be activated (I cant see it in-game) and set till 2020.

4. They have plentiful of MTLBs for service as well. Mainly support role and storages, but these should also be added for mechanized infantry, together with BMP-1s.
Idea: Copy the MTLB from different ORBAT and provide it to Bulgaria as new unit. Suggested years of availability: 1975-2020.

5. Bulgaria is in use of Cougar helicopter. Should be added.

6. According to Wikipedia and Wikipedia only, Akatsya systems were sold off or scrapped. Nothing happened to Gvozdika though.
Idea: Unit 040 (Akatsya) should be retired by 2010. Unit 039 (Gvozdika) should be brought back till 2020

7. Bulgaria uses D-20 guns only a towed variant.
Idea: Copy that weapon from different OOB and add for Bulgaria as new unit.


OK, hope this is useful and developers will take this into consideration. Hope it will not be understood as whining or offending.

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