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Old December 13th, 2002, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: Gryphin Mod v.3 - Troop Question

Look at the Tonnage Structure entry, for starters. It may have extra zeros.

One other thing. Did you do anything funny with Offense To-Hit Plus and Defense To-Hit Plus in your hull sizes (vehiclesizes.txt) and components? Maybe a component with a high negative to defense is being destroyed, leaving a very good defensive chance. Just guesses, since I can't see your files or savegame.

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I'm using Daves mod utility.
It is a Rage Escort with:
Bridge, Crew, Life, 6 Engines, 1 Cap Ship Missle I, 1 Supply I.
It has to be something I entered wrong. I can fix it by copying over the entire supplys storage area. Does anybody want to look and see what could give this supply bay,
100 Percent defence?
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I'm willing to take a look. Post your components file. Or, zip your datafiles and a savegame, and I'll load it up to see if there's any weirdness.
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Krsqk,
I'll do that. I want to try a few things first.
I'm going to put a "standard" components.txt in its place. I will then copy and paste each component group I changed 1 group at a time.
It is really strange.
Ships without the supply bay die. Ships with it, cannot be hit once all other components are gone.
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Here is the file:
http://www.windingstream.com/se/gryphin_components.htm
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I think I found the problem:
Quote:
Name := Supply Storage I 10kT
Description := Area on a starship to store supplies.
Pic Num := 117
Tonnage Space Taken := 10
Tonnage Structure := 0
Since it has the smallest tonnage structure, it's very likely to be hit Last. In fact, depending on how the combat system works, it probably have a 0% chance of being hit! Then, your ship has 100% damage (by numbers), but still has components left! The weapon hits the ship, checks for components to damage/destroy, and can't find any with a chance to be hit.

BTW, your descriptions and ability numbers on your smaller-sized cargo and supply components don't match. Just noticed while scrolling through.

Hope this fixes the problem!
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Default Re: Gryphin Mod v.3 - Troop Question

Thanks Krsqk
I changed them all. It apears to have worked.
Um, let me get this straight,
From the Description of
Tonnage Structure:
"The number of points of damage this component can withstand before being destroyed."
If the number is "0", it can't be hit because of a quirk in the combat algorythm?

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