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Old February 10th, 2001, 07:53 AM

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I think a small modification of social unrest would do the job.... Anyone care to give it a shot?

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Old February 10th, 2001, 11:24 AM
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On the stellar manipulators, can a modder flag them to always have the marker for forbidden technology? Meaning the one that prevents a non-organic race from repairing a damaged seeking parasite on a ship it stole.




I haven't found any way to make such adjustment. It just isn't included in the code. However, if the supply requirements for Stellar Manipulation components would work, it would make them much harder to use.
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Old February 10th, 2001, 09:37 PM

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The problem with making it unrepairable the way its set up now is that flag is only set on unresearchable technology. That means if you can build stellar manipulation you can repair it. That would be a code change to make that work.

Even if you made it a racial pick sort of thing if you picked that area you could research it, build it, and repair it. If you didn't research it you couldn't repair it but you couldn't build it either so its a moot point.

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Old February 10th, 2001, 09:50 PM

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Why not just alter the Stellar manipulation components to destroy the ship that is carrying them, like the ringworld + sphereworld comps? Alternatively add the Sector - Damage ability to the comp so that any ship in the area is torn apart by the gravitational flux / whatever of the warp point openning / closing
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Old February 11th, 2001, 01:39 AM
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Why not just alter the Stellar manipulation components to destroy the ship that is carrying them, like the ringworld + sphereworld comps? Alternatively add the Sector - Damage ability to the comp so that any ship in the area is torn apart by the gravitational flux / whatever of the warp point openning / closing



With respect to the planet destroying components, I think that is an outstanding idea. But not on my warp open/close ships! Not that.

You should see my empire before I started turning off the SM tech to give the AI a fair chance. My empire would be as fully interconnected as is possible under the 10 warp points per system limit. And, I wouldn't have any warp points leading out that didn't have at least half my fleet sitting there watching to see what came through. Even that one was closed once I became MEE.

Wormhole creation is very, very fun. Under 1.19, it's also very, very unbalancing. I would set all my colonies up to send their ships to my homeworld. Once I had a fair size fleet, I'd open up a wormhole to an enemy system, send the ships through and close the wormhole. Very, very fun.

This raises an interesting question in my mind: How many of you who use SM like I do would like to see an expensive SM component which could be placed on a ship/base which blocks the creation of wormholes into that system?

Before I found out that the AI doesn't use SM offensively, I had a rapid deployment force ready to respond to any hostile wormholes opened up in my empire. But if the AI (or a human) effectively uses wormholes, I don't see anything to prevent him from annihilating at least one planet per turn by opening a wormhole and then sending everything he has through to destroy a single planet. If he's lucky and the planet is close to the wormhole, he might even make it back through the wormhole after the battle.
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Old February 11th, 2001, 01:57 AM

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I'd rather see repair bays changed so that they had a repair rate, or a cost associated with them aside from just maintenance. It shouldn't take as long to repair a stellar manipulation component as it does a piece of armor...

As far as wormhole usage - let's see how good the AI is at using stellar manip. with the next patch. Maybe it'll surprise us. *shrug*
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Old February 11th, 2001, 03:42 AM

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A repair rate and resource cost for the repair of SM devices would be great. Both should be high.
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