Gamey Tactics and Bug Exploits Thread

Asmala · #1 July 28th, 2003, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

21. Mothballing ships to get around the maximum ship limits.

Mothballing ships won't get you over the maximum limit.

Stone Mill · #2 July 28th, 2003, 05:34 PM

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15. Allies laying mines in the same sector to get more than 100 mines in it.

I thought this was inconsequential; first one empires mines are swept, then the next. All you need is 100 minesweeping capability.

spoon · #3 July 28th, 2003, 05:41 PM

The Talisman
Bezerker

Arkcon · #4 July 28th, 2003, 05:42 PM

Oh heck, while we're attempting a cannonical list :

16 and one half: Missing several turns without explanation

[ July 28, 2003, 16:47: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

Slick · #5 July 28th, 2003, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by Stone Mill:

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Originally posted:

15. Allies laying mines in the same sector to get more than 100 mines in it.

I thought this was inconsequential; first one empires mines are swept, then the next. All you need is 100 minesweeping capability.

Sorry, but no sir. I would provide witnesses, but all of them are in dead fleets. The (default) limit is 100 mines per sector per empire. This means that the maximum number of mines in a sector is 100 * (No. of players). Note that 2 players must have a peace treaty in order to co-mine a sector. They still follow the rule of only enemy mines "attack" your ships. But if you don't have a peace treaty with the owners of those mines, you could potentially face 100 * (No. of players -1) mines in a sector. So 100 minesweeping capability will NOT protect you against this tactic. I am not sure on the order of sweeping in this case. Probably like the default: first laid = first swept.

On the subject of "gamey", I think this is perfectly legitimate gameplay.

Slick.

[ July 28, 2003, 16:47: Message edited by: Slick ]

Fyron · #6 July 28th, 2003, 06:52 PM

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On the subject of "gamey", I think this is perfectly legitimate gameplay.

Again, please post nothing of this sort in this thread. It does not matter if you think a particular item is gamey or not. Some people do, so it goes on the list.

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Originally posted by Asmala:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

21. Mothballing ships to get around the maximum ship limits.

Mothballing ships won't get you over the maximum limit.

Yes it will. Mothballed ships do not count towards your ship total.

[ July 28, 2003, 17:53: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

geoschmo · #7 July 28th, 2003, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by Asmala:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

21. Mothballing ships to get around the maximum ship limits.

Mothballing ships won't get you over the maximum limit.
Yes it will. Mothballed ships do not count towards your ship total.

Asmala is correct here. I explained this the Last time it came up but you might have missed it. It was towards the end of the conversation.

The mothballed ships don't show up in the score screen, but they do show up in the ships screen and they will stop you from building new ships and getting over the ship limit.

Geoschmo

[ July 28, 2003, 17:56: Message edited by: geoschmo ]