SE4 World Championship ?

Fyron · #1 December 30th, 2003, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
Uh well, Geoschmo sucks, Fyron probably won't play, and Gryphin probably won't have time. But the first two are possibilites.

You got that right (well, the part about me, anyways). I don't really care about being the best or any of that bunk. I only joined survivor 2 cause it has the potential to get really... screwey... in the later stages.

There are a bunch of people you missed there AT...

Master Belisarius · #2 December 31st, 2003, 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by Mauro:
Yes, i put my eye on some of the other tournaments, i think that KOTH system is not a good system and that's because the 1 vs 1 games are completely different from the usual 5-10-15-20 players games...

But think 1 vs 1 is more fair to determine who is the best player in terms of SEIV skills.
Sure, in games with more players does exist other elements, like diplomacy of course. But very often, I saw 2 or more guys attacking other, just because they think he's the best player, or just because he had the bad luck to do not find an ally.

IMHO, the SE4 Rating System and KOTH are the best way to measure the skill of the players.

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Originally posted by Mauro:

The best five players ?
Obviously my brother ! He's the best player i had ever met, he easily defeats me, and i'm a good experienced ex beta tester player.
Another incredible player ? Thomas Pfister! I encountered him only once, but he hit me a lot. However, only a real challenge may say us who is the best player ;-D

Think you should join to the SE4 Rating system and play 1vs1 games or a game with 5-10-15-20 players: you may find many other great players...

Geckomlis · #3 December 31st, 2003, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
IMHO, the SE4 Rating System and KOTH are the best way to measure the skill of the players.

The SE4 Rating System and KOTH are also good structures for generating games.

Mauro, one of the problems with triathlons is that the required events limit the potential pool of participants and severely limit the pool of potentially interested participants. IMO, your range of events might be similarly constraining.

Slynky · #4 December 31st, 2003, 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
Uh well, Geoschmo sucks, Fyron probably won't play, and Gryphin probably won't have time. But the first two are possibilites.

There are a bunch of people you missed there AT...

ONE for sure: Asmala is the deadliest player I know. He's scientific about everything...just take a look at his Posts...he analyzes the game to pieces! For all of the people I have played with (or have begun to rely on reputations),I think he and Rex are the best. I think their gameplay differs a bit but I suspect they could team as a pair and challenge any other pair around and win most any game.

(apologies to anyone slighted by my comment...I just haven't had the privilege...or misfortune...to meet you yet

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Gryphin · #5 December 31st, 2003, 02:55 AM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
Knoble idea, but I don't think it will go far because of past attempts to do simular things.

Besides, we all know who the top five winners would be. ......

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Gryphin

Atrocities you funny. Are you challenging narf for Forum Funny Fiend?

Mauro · #6 December 31st, 2003, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by Geckomlis:

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Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
IMHO, the SE4 Rating System and KOTH are the best way to measure the skill of the players.

The SE4 Rating System and KOTH are also good structures for generating games.

Mauro, one of the problems with triathlons is that the required events limit the potential pool of participants and severely limit the pool of potentially interested participants. IMO, your range of events might be similarly constraining.

I really don't think so ! MY idea was based on a first phase with 4 games... how many players now writing on these forums plays 4 or more games at the same time? (lots of them!) .. I said these 4 games should take place in a small galaxy with a limited number of players (6)... just in order to make them another time LIGHTER (in time and micromanagement of great empires costs). So i don't think that the problem is TIME. May be we will loss some players, but the bigger part of them (if really interested) will only have not to join other normal games while playing the tourney.

ON 1Vs1 and Multiple players game :
I don't think 1vs1 as a completely bad setting of play, but i think that diplomacy, trade, variety of enemies/allies and the fact you don't necessary have to mantain your empire under war status all the time are more interesting than a deathmatch. And the ability of a complete se4 player is, IMO, the ability of change game situation continously (anf it happens more frequently with multple players game when there are more brains working in the same game at the same time! - AI is not a brain as you all know

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primitive · #7 December 31st, 2003, 12:46 PM

Good idea Mauro but way too ambitious. With KOTH and the Rating Bash going on (+ a few fun games) there is no way I would have had the time to join

Also, the winner of any 5 - 20 player games is almost down to pure luck. Sure, the winner will be a good player, but with such high stakes everybody would gang up on the favourites at the start. The only true test of playing skills comes from one-on-one games (or games with pre-set teams).

Give the Rating System another half year, and you will find most of the contenders for the "Greatest players of the galaxy" on the top (Stone is still AWOL though).