OT: Best D&D RPG Game?

[Atrocities]

KotOR is not a bad game once you semi understand the atrocius control system.

The game has so many limitations and flaws that playing it is a real pain in the ***.

For example you are commanding the wookie, your better melay guy, and he comes acrossed a mine. You try to switch to your smart guy, but since the wookie saw the mine first, he is the one who has to deal with it. The same thing goes for combat, if the team member you are controlling sees and enemy, YOU MUST engage. I hate this. Also you can not pick who you kill, the game does that for you. So you can't wack the smart assed yuppy in the bar, nor the sith trooper who is in your way. You have to wait until the game says they are bad guys before you can attack, and you can only attack with the member of your team that you are control regardless of skill or health.

This game is horrible for the most part, but it is kind of fun. Let this be a lesson, all of the hype that this game is game of the year is utter BS, don't buy a game that is a port from a consule. You get what you pay for;

Poor controls, poor AI, poor player interaction, etc.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Narratio:
I'm a dinosaur. I've yet to find a PC based RPG that's a quarter as much fun as 4 or 5 friends sitting around a table with figures, maps, dice and beer.

Sorry, I feel RPG's need eyeball contact.

That doesn't make you a dinosaur... you just make the mistake of trying to treat computerized RPGs are pen and paper RPGs. They are not the same thing at all, but still fun, in a different way.

[Wydraz]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
KotOR is not a bad game once you semi understand the atrocius control system.

The game has so many limitations and flaws that playing it is a real pain in the ***.

Something is wrong with your brain. This is the hottest game that's come down the pike in years, and I love it.

For example you are commanding the wookie, your better melay guy, and he comes acrossed a mine. You try to switch to your smart guy, but since the wookie saw the mine first, he is the one who has to deal with it.

Wrong. Once a mine is spotted, you can switch to any character to deal with it.

The same thing goes for combat, if the team member you are controlling sees and enemy, YOU MUST engage. I hate this.

Also false. You can click the 'Disengage' button and cancel combat.

Also you can not pick who you kill, the game does that for you. So you can't wack the smart assed yuppy in the bar, nor the sith trooper who is in your way.

Read the manual. You can click on any enemy to target him. You are not stuck with whomever is spotted first, as long as another enemy is in your current character's LOS.

This game is horrible for the most part, but it is kind of fun. Let this be a lesson, all of the hype that this game is game of the year is utter BS, don't buy a game that is a port from a consule.

This game was designed simultaneously for the PC and console market, unlike most games that are ported. It has excellent controls, but someone who is not familiar with RPGs will have a little learning curve with it. You should give it a chance.

Poor controls, poor AI, poor player interaction, etc.

I think if you don't like RPGs in general, there is no pleasing you. Perhaps you should stick to other game types if RPGs are not your bag. I think KOTOR is the best RPG I have played in years, and I have played many.

[ January 06, 2004, 14:52: Message edited by: Wydraz ]

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Thank you David for the info. I did not know there were so many RPG games out. They all seem so overwhelming.

I am just looking for a game that will draw me into it. A game that once I start playing I can forget about RL for a long while and just emerse myself in the gaming experience.

I'm still looking for that game. Like David, I have a large amount of my game library devoted to RPG's. Unfortunatley, most of them can't keep my attention for very long. My most recent game, Temple of Elemental Evil, I just can't find the time to even start. I'm still playing SE4G so much I can't find the time to start another type of game.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

# 5) Sundog: The Frozen Legacy

what's that like? havn't heard of it.

[Puke]

Oooohhhhh, Id FORGOTTEN about Sundog! That game was the best! I never finished it, so a while back I picked up an Atari ST emulator to give it another go - but it never worked right. anyone know where I can get a working copy of this?

FTL made the best games. When I was a kid, I had a winning entery ($100, i was so stoaked) in the OIDS galaxy design contest. the best part was the floppy the mailed with all the other winning galaxies on it. must have been a couple hundred new levels to play, all masterfully done. Dungeon Master (and sequels) was another great FTL game. what happened to that company, or at least to the developers from it?

This also is another game that answeres the calling for the type of thing described in Atrocities dream, in another thread.

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I'll throw in a recommendation for Planescape:Torment. It is a completely different kind of role playing game then most of the others mentioned (vastly different than Baldur's Gate for example). Most rpgs seem to focus on combat and gathering treasure and the story is given second place. Not so in Planescape:Torment. There the story is extremely immersive (a bit of a mystery in that you wake up in the morgue with no memory and quickly learn that you can not die so you are trying to learn who you are). Since who you are is an integral part of the story you also get to make many decisions on what type of person/character you are. So Planescape:Torment offers you some real meaty actual "role" playing decisions. The potential downside to the game is that combat plays a somewhat secondry role (their are several combats and I really enjoyed them because they were important combats in the story arc, but not nearly as much "hack and slash" as in say Baldur's gate).

Another game which offers you plenty of "role" playing decisions and is very unique in both story and genre is Geneforge from Spiderweb software. In that game you are a shaper with the ability to create your own army of mutant creations which do your fighting for you (it too is a mystery where you are shipwrecked on a forbidden island and have to figure out why the island is forbidden and who or what shipwrecked you there). Plus making your own little pet monsters and running around with them is just fun. Another thing I really liked about the game is that it is morally ambigous in that who seems to be "good" is later revealed to be doing some pretty nasty things and that who seems "bad" later turn out to be almost justified, except... (i.e. what is ultimately "good" to your character is a truly interesting choice depending on what your character values and not something that is pretty obviously good like stopping the world from being destroyed or whatever).

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