OT: This is very disturbing

Baron Munchausen · #1 February 7th, 2004, 08:00 PM

Now realize that this is just like 'civilian' life -- it is estimated that 3/4ths of all rapes go unreported -- and yes, women are often punished in various ways for reporting sexual assault. So it's not that the armed forces are necessarily all that 'brutal and uncivilized' but that they are just like the population at large. Now you can get really disturbed.

Fyron · #2 February 7th, 2004, 08:10 PM

And keep in mind that most of the command structure (at the upper levels) is male, so they do not really understand the trauma of the females being raped. So, they are not really the best trained/equipped to deal with the situation properly.

Slynky · #3 February 7th, 2004, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Now realize that this is just like 'civilian' life -- it is estimated that 3/4ths of all rapes go unreported -- and yes, women are often punished in various ways for reporting sexual assault. So it's not that the armed forces are necessarily all that 'brutal and uncivilized' but that they are just like the population at large. Now you can get really disturbed.

Well, if you read the article that I read, you would see that the assaults WERE reported and nothing was done about it.

narf poit chez BOOM · #4 February 8th, 2004, 01:05 AM

personally, i think a dull, rusty butterknife, with salt on it.

Baron Munchausen · #5 February 8th, 2004, 02:41 AM

Some assaults were reported.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110700,00.html

"Only 11 of the women reported being assaulted to military authorities, Hansen said."

If the actual number is 37 then that's about parallel with the 'civilian' 3:1 ratio of reports to actual incidents.

[ February 08, 2004, 00:48: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]

Narrew · #6 February 8th, 2004, 03:13 AM

The only thing I can think of an up side is once after they idiots pulls their head out of their asses and start prosecute the turds that have done the rapes, then deal with them in a military prison. Things are a bit different there.

AMF · #7 February 8th, 2004, 03:51 AM

There's a lot that is going on in the world today that should disturb people. For an example that is on the flip side of the post about rapes in the army not being investigated, howabout this:

Feds win right to war protesters' records
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BY RYAN J. FOLEY
Feb. 7, 2004 | DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) -- In what may be the first subpoena of its kind in decades, a federal judge has ordered a university to turn over records about a gathering of anti-war activists.

In addition to the subpoena of Drake University, subpoenas were served this past week on four of the activists who attended a Nov. 15 forum at the school, ordering them to appear before a grand jury Tuesday, the protesters said.

Federal prosecutors refuse to comment on the subpoenas.

In addition to records about who attended the forum, the subpoena orders the university to divulge all records relating to the local chapter of the National Lawyers Guild, a New York-based legal activist organization that sponsored the forum.

etc....(rest of story at
http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2004/...ke/index.html)

edit: the point being, of course, that some are very ready to investigate that which they want to and not willing to investigate that which they fear looks bad. It's probably just a fact of life for the human animal when organized into governments and such...

[ February 08, 2004, 02:20: Message edited by: alarikf ]