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February 9th, 2004, 04:19 AM
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Re: Modding question
It won't, since you can't upgrade from a design without a shipyard to one with.
However if you already have a shipyard and this on seperately and try to do this, it might work..
EDIT: nope, it doesn't. SE4 won't let you make the second design to upgrade to.
[ February 09, 2004, 02:24: Message edited by: Phoenix-D ]
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February 9th, 2004, 04:39 AM
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Re: Modding question
Oh, I see, I never noticed the upgrade button before in the Ship Design window. I always used the 'copy' button and then manually upgraded the components individually - now that you mentioned the button, I can save some work, thanks. 
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February 9th, 2004, 04:51 AM
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Re: Modding question
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Originally posted by Captain Kwok:
I don't think you understood.
Level 1 would be a dummy component with X family number.
Level 2 would be the expansion component with X family number.
So you have a legimate design with the level 1 component, and then hit upgrade - perhaps it might get around the requirements in the way that AI designs do??
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No I understood. You can not make a design that has more than one SY, with or without the upgrade button.
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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
It won't, since you can't upgrade from a design without a shipyard to one with.
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Unless you change that setting in Settings.txt.
[ February 09, 2004, 02:51: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]
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February 10th, 2004, 02:05 AM
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Re: Modding question
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
...You can not make a design that has more than one SY, with or without the upgrade button.
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well, yes you can. If you delegate the work that is:
1. Specify the design you want to make in the designcreation.txt of your empire.
2. Turn on the design minister.
3. Voila! Perfect design with 2 space yards.
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February 10th, 2004, 02:11 AM
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Re: Modding question
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Originally posted by Rollo:
quote: Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
...You can not make a design that has more than one SY, with or without the upgrade button.
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well, yes you can. If you delegate the work that is:
1. Specify the design you want to make in the designcreation.txt of your empire.
2. Turn on the design minister.
3. Voila! Perfect design with 2 space yards. So.. the AI cheats?
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February 9th, 2004, 03:04 PM
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Re: Modding question
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Originally posted by Loser:
So.. the AI cheats?
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It's not so much that it cheats, it's more that the game doesn't check if AI designs are breaking the rules. 
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February 9th, 2004, 03:05 PM
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Re: Modding question
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Originally posted by Loser:
quote: Originally posted by Rollo:
quote: Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
...You can not make a design that has more than one SY, with or without the upgrade button.
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well, yes you can. If you delegate the work that is:
1. Specify the design you want to make in the designcreation.txt of your empire.
2. Turn on the design minister.
3. Voila! Perfect design with 2 space yards. So.. the AI cheats? Not really, since SEIV AI files in stock or mods are made not to abuse this feature. But if you like, you can make your own mod with AI building bizzare ships. It is certainly not cheating, it is just a new mod 
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