What's the true scoop on rioting planets?

[Paul1980au]

If 20 players the planet wont form a new empire

ANd if a planet does form a independant empire then they have youre tech tree.

In SE5 i would like to see in that instance a unlimited number of new empires via rioting - even if 20 have been in and destroyed 1 can replace them

Id like to see an unlimited empire number feature in the game anyway in SE5.

And the tech tree perhaps they go back 1 level or get 80% of all youre techs at that point - randomisation could also be used.

[PvK]

Another way to increase unhappiness is to built lots of minimal ships and then use the "Fire On" option on them.

But, does rioting actually have anything to do with the chances of a planet breaking from the empire? I thought that was an unrelated random event.

If you don't mind modding, you could of course add an intelligence mission which causes the defection event... but you could probably only target enemy planets with it. You could temporarily hijack another empire to use it on yourself, though...

PvK

[Slick]

Well this is in "happiness.txt":

Population Happiness Effects:
- Riot prevents any point generation from that planet.
- If a planet riots for sufficient time, it may rebel.
- Rebellion changes the planet to a new owner.
- Happiness level modifies output of the planet.

Slick.

[Fyron]

I saw rioting planets break off to form their own empires far more frequently in SE3 than I have in SE4, though it was still a rare event there. It happens, but not very frequently.

[PvK]

Hmm. I have seen planets break away too, but I think I have seen it with happy planets. I also have seen empires with massive rioting not have any planets break away. Unless someone has tested this or seen good evidence, I'll remain skeptical that perhaps this is an unimplemented feature.

PvK

[kerensky]

I think they use neutral AI files.

The rebelled planets use regular AI files. Meaning they can leave their system and expand. They'll even take over other planets with troops if they get teh chance. (I've actually had this happen.)

[Wardad]

I thought nuetral was a happyness type.

The worst type to choose. I think an PBW empire I took over has it, and there is no way to check.