Rumor: Kerry & Edwards Want to Ban SEIV

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Draken:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/fun.gam....ap/index.html

Maybe the rumor originated there...

( I feel bad because of the topic of my first post in this forum )

Yes this must be it and that damn Kerry jumped on the band wagon. Oh this just PMO!!!!

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by alarikf:
But, hey, you can go ahead and blame me for all the country's problems. I'm a former libertarian and now one of those Liberals ...and damn proud of it. You know them, those folks who stand for liberty, freedom from tyranny, civil rights, and opportunity for all and all that?

Alarik

To bad your the exception to the liberal left rule of thumb which is to protect people from these very things by passing laws that limit our freedoms.

And no offense, but many people do not agree with the liberal point of view on a great many topics. And for the record, I think we need liberal ideas and laws, but over the Last twelve years the liberal laws that have been enacted have only limited our freedoms and free choices. The liberals that force fed us these laws I think we can do without.

[AMF]

Actually, the genesis of such child protection laws are generally attempts to prevent egregious child abuse. Maybe it's just me, but when I hear about parents beating the snot out of their kids such that they break bones or inflict permanent injuries, or when they lock them in basements as punishment for days at a time, or any number of other awful things that they do to kids who CANNOT protect themselves, then, yes, I do support such laws.

What I think you're reacting against is the notion that such laws are either (1) too far -reaching or (2) enofrced beyond all reasonablness. Both of which I would agree with you. Such laws should be limited in scope and application and should have a satefy check in the courts. And, I think the latter does occur often. Not sure aboutt he former.

[AMF]

RE:

"left wing, count to 10, time out, never spank your child, always talk soothingly, democrats can kiss the fattest whitest part of my buttocks."

No thanks.

FWIW, my sister never has hit her kids, they're just fine. Igot spanked twice in my entire childhoold, I did pretty darn good despite all odds. Perhaps something else is going on in the families you mention? Maybe it's a self versus community issue (as most reactionary v. progressive issues are at core).

[AMF]

Just a guess, but this was on Fox "news" right?

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I was watching the news tonight and they mentioned that Kerry and Edwards are in favor of banning or limiting the production and or sale of violent video games.

[David E. Gervais]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
Why can't parents take responsibility for their kids?

Well, the answer to this is simple,.. because the parents are not at home to raise their kids. So why should they be held responsible? (in case it is lost in print..this statement is dripping in sarcasm.)

Seriously, in my generation, there was always one of the parents at home to 'raise' the kids. (And the parent that worked made enough to support a familly of 4.) Today, due to the extremely fast rising cost of living, both parents need to work just to make ends meet. More taxes, rising prices on 'necessities' and lower wages (based on the cost of living) is destroying the social structure. Oh, and in case none of you have noticed, within 5-10 years it's going to get extremely worse. The worlds 'infrastructure' (highways, bridges, sewers, etc.) is crumbling at an allarming rate. 50+ years of 'Patching' things that needed to be replaced is going to come to a climax.

Mark my words, things are going to get very 'Interesting' and this is indeed a curse.

[/babble mode off]

Cheers!

[AMF]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
And no offense, but many people do not agree with the liberal point of view on a great many topics. And for the record, I think we need liberal ideas and laws, but over the Last twelve years the liberal laws that have been enacted have only limited our freedoms and free choices. The liberals that force fed us these laws I think we can do without.

Like that liberal John Aschroft?