Commanders randomly dying?

[sfsuphysics]

Hmmm, well I noticed damage started occuring when my fatigue was at 191 (didn't get any higher) if that's the case there, need to MASSIVELY re-tweek that AI then, so that when the enemy has ZERO chance of even hurting you, you'll stop casting spells and getting all fatigued (and dying!)

As to the battle not reflecting what happened, well it shouldn't matter since they had no mages nor archer units that would even be able to get near me! *grrr* boogers.. now I hhave to get a new demonbreed

[PvK]

Is it possible that the Demonbred was standing inside the effect of a friendly spell or temperature aura? Having hot and cold units standing next to each other can injure or kill one or both of them (and the AI doesn't seem to ever avoid standing in deadly areas... ).

PvK

[Wendigo]

It's very unlikely for a mage to get up to 190 fatigue on his/her own, because as soon as the mage goes over 100 fatigue he goes unconscious, stops casting & starts recovering 5 fatigue/round.

Thus, unless your mage used powerful magics requiring gems or was a comunion slave such high fatigue level must most probably be due to an outside source. If the mage was a heat resistant Demonbred I would bet on a 'fatigue due to cold' source: either a nearby critter with a cold aura (Ice Devil...), or a Water mage casting Grip of Winter.

[HJ]

There are a number of fatigue-causing spells, such as dessication, anything that causes "sleep", some paralysis sources, going berserk, etc. If it wasn't a cold aura, I would check whether something of that sort was cast during the battle, or if he cast "sabbath slave" earlier.

[sfsuphysics]

Well, I was attacking a neutral province, fairly early in the game, all my units are "heaters". My mages do go over 100 without zonking out, without having any special cast/items (I can post a picture if you don't believe me). There weren't any special spells cast at me, because the only spell the enemy cast was bless (a couple random priests).

*sigh* who knows, I think I'll stop playing until the patch comes out, then I can hopefully retweak the existing magic system (atleast I hope that is possible, and in the confines of "modding")

[sfsuphysics]

Hmm, having looked at it again, it seems that they do go over 100, and get to the point where they lose 5 fatigue/rd or whatever, but don't go unconscious because of it (maybe my magic in the domain setting was pumped up?). And I got a right click in and he did go to 200 fatigue, but then dropped right back down to 191, but continued to get hurt because of it. *sigh*

[HJ]

Did he cast communion or sabbath slave? Were there any water 2 mages or ice devils around him? Any other spells that could have caused it to happen? If you still have the replay, you could go over spell by spell and look up each of them in the manual to see what they do, and find the guilty party.
Also, did any of the mages have anything like rime hauberk or some other item equipped that radiates area effects? Did he go berserk at some point?

[ December 14, 2003, 23:57: Message edited by: HJ ]