Moving Immobile Pretenders

[pole_shift]

I think your Pretender can only be re-called to your Capital.

[Zurai]

Originally posted by pole_shift:
I think your Pretender can only be re-called to your Capital.

Correct. And if your capital is occupied by the enemy at the time... Better hope you have a Wyrm or Dragon pretender and there's not much of an occupying force.

[tinkthank]

No longer being able to cast Gateway makes an immobile pretender's leadership value completely moot. I'm for:
- astral travel = nono
- gateway = ok

EDIT: this means that you will never be able to actually attack anything with that pretender, since only friendly provinces can be targeted. Where is the imbalance? Please give us Gateway back! (Please?)

[ March 14, 2004, 21:38: Message edited by: tinkthank ]

[Psitticine]

If you can teleport an immobile Pretender, you can always ferry troops to him/her/it via another mages, especially if you equip them with leadership-boosting items.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Psitticine:
If you can teleport an immobile Pretender, you can always ferry troops to him/her/it via another mages, especially if you equip them with leadership-boosting items.

That sort of defeats the point, since now your troops are, effectively, being led by other mages.

Since the immobile cannot move anyway, any units in the province will be led into battle either when your fortress is stormed, or in conjunction with a $1 investment in a single point of PD to cause all garrisoned troops to fight.

The only drawback being that they'll start in the standard issue dogpile with no orders, since you can't organize them into squads....but you can get around that simply by organizing the IMPORTANT troops into squads, and leaving the rest in the dogpile.

Leadership value of immobiles, as such, is mostly irrelevant now. I hope the Sphinx got a LOT cheaper to compensate for its new total and complete immobility, since it's now even less useful than the originally cheaper immobiles.

[tinkthank]

Originally posted by Psitticine:
If you can teleport an immobile Pretender, you can always ferry troops to him/her/it via another mages, especially if you equip them with leadership-boosting items.

I have to agree with Norfleet. That would be missing the point altogether. I dont want the pretender to lead troops into battle; I dont want to make him a SC. But I want him to be able to ferry them around to friendly labs with his nice leadership skills.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by tinkthank:
I have to agree with Norfleet. That would be missing the point altogether. I dont want the pretender to lead troops into battle; I dont want to make him a SC. But I want him to be able to ferry them around to friendly labs with his nice leadership skills.

Schlepping the troops around by other mages defeats the point no matter WHAT you want out of him: A simple schlepper of massive quantities of troops, or a battle leader: Both are totally defeated if the immobile pretender cannot move with troops. The resale value on an immobile chassis goes WAAAAAY down as even magical mobility is stripped from it.