fire blessing lvl 9 : armorpiercing 8 ap fire weapons ? anti-vq strat discussing

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by PrinzMegaherz:
Hm, I think it does. How else could fire 9 tuatha kill ulmish infantry so easily?

What kind of Ulmish infantry? The basic ones have 20 protection or less, and with armour piercing damage, that gets reduced to 10 protection or less. 8 damage will go through an armour of 10 fairly easily.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Boron:
i am confused so now . arryn you said ap + ap add up to an while graeme said it stays ap .

The "!=" symbol means "not equal to".

how many knights can swarm a sc all in all in one combat turn ?

The number of units that can fit in a single grid square (press 'g' to see these) is equal to 6 divided by their size. You can put 6 size one units, or one size 6 unit, or two size 3 units, or a single size 4 unit with 2 size one units in a single grid square. There are eight grid squares surrounding each single grid square. Since cavalry is size 3, you can have 16 knights around a single SC.

[ July 28, 2004, 19:11: Message edited by: Graeme Dice ]

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by archaeolept:
umm, as i understand it, the 8 damage AP attack is resolved separately from the normal damage attack; ie. they do not add together.

I think this is correct, I recall reading dev's post that said something along this lines long time ago, if I rember correctly.

[Boron]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Originally posted by Boron:
i am confused so now . arryn you said ap + ap add up to an while graeme said it stays ap .

The "!=" symbol means "not equal to".

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oh didn't know that symbol . !
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this smybol means btw should be afaik i know so i thought arryn means that one lol

[Boron]

Originally posted by Stormbinder:

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Originally posted by archaeolept:
umm, as i understand it, the 8 damage AP attack is resolved separately from the normal damage attack; ie. they do not add together.

I think this is correct, I recall reading dev's post that said something along this lines long time ago, if I rember correctly.

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hm is that then an additional damage roll with 8ap fire bless damage +2d6 oe ?
that would make sense .
if it only does 8 ap damage though it couldn't damage a 16+ protection unit .

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
The number of units that can fit in a single grid square (press 'g' to see these) is equal to 6 divided by their size. You can put 6 size one units, or one size 6 unit, or two size 3 units, or a single size 4 unit with 2 size one units in a single grid square. There are eight grid squares surrounding each single grid square. Since cavalry is size 3, you can have 16 knights around a single SC.

thnx . how is that with skeletons and other fodder ? they are size 2 so there could be 24 skelletons around a sc .
if the sc has a fire shield he will kill many skeletons so more than 24 can attack him in 1 combat turn . so if they attack a 20 def unit every skeleton after the 20th should have to make a attack roll againt 0 defensive or do they even cumulate up to negative amounts ?

hmmmmmmmm so a skelleton horde enchanced with weapons of sharpness could have a high chance killing a melee sc ?
hmmmmmmmmmm did anyone ever try this strat out with pangenea ?
pans casting weapons of sharpness on a horde of maenards ^^
that could be pretty scary or ?

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Boron:

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Originally posted by Stormbinder:

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Originally posted by archaeolept:
umm, as i understand it, the 8 damage AP attack is resolved separately from the normal damage attack; ie. they do not add together.

I think this is correct, I recall reading dev's post that said something along this lines long time ago, if I rember correctly.

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hm is that then an additional damage roll with 8ap fire bless damage +2d6 oe ?
that would make sense .
if it only does 8 ap damage though it couldn't damage a 16+ protection unit .

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Probably, although the devs didn't specify the open-endenenss of this, IIRC, but that would make sense in the global picture. And keep in mind that it is AP damage, that makes a big difference.

[Boron]

Originally posted by Stormbinder:

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Originally posted by Stormbinder:

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Originally posted by archaeolept:
umm, as i understand it, the 8 damage AP attack is resolved separately from the normal damage attack; ie. they do not add together.

I think this is correct, I recall reading dev's post that said something along this lines long time ago, if I rember correctly.

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hm is that then an additional damage roll with 8ap fire bless damage +2d6 oe ?
that would make sense .
if it only does 8 ap damage though it couldn't damage a 16+ protection unit .

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Probably, although the devs didn't specify the open-endenenss of this, IIRC, but that would make sense in the global picture. And keep in mind that it is AP damage, that makes a big difference.

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do you remember how that is with flaming arrows ?
cause there you get +8 ap flaming damage too so it would make sense if it works the same way .

finally i remember once having found a 4 provinces map but i don't find it anymore and now i wanted to download it to sandbox test it for my own perhaps that map was for dominion 1 but if someone has a link to it plz post it here