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Old July 31st, 2004, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: fire blessing lvl 9 : armorpiercing 8 ap fire weapons ? anti-vq strat discussing

a small additional question :
in general 5 units set on guard help against assasinations .

if i simply send e.g. 50 devils on guard vq if someone would try to assasinate her are still 5 devils chosen to protect her ?

if answer is no than what with this variant :

45 devils on guard commander , second squad with 5 devils on guard commander .

is then the second squad chosen for guard through assasination ?
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hm remembering my poor knowlegde from school mathematics the sequence shouldn't matter .
It doesn't.

[quote] so the air shield strength is 20 or 30 % according to liga's manual addenda .

The air shield spell is always 80% effective.

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but holy pyre seems powerful so could it be possible that the vq in the battles you have in mind was killed mainly by holy pyre or wither bones and not by x-bows with flaming arrows themselves graeme dice ?
I'm not talking about a vampire queen. I'm talking about niefel giants against longdead archers.
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Old July 31st, 2004, 04:07 AM
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if i simply send e.g. 50 devils on guard vq if someone would try to assasinate her are still 5 devils chosen to protect her ?
Of course.
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but holy pyre seems powerful so could it be possible that the vq in the battles you have in mind was killed mainly by holy pyre or wither bones and not by x-bows with flaming arrows themselves graeme dice ?
I'm not talking about a vampire queen. I'm talking about niefel giants against longdead archers.
hm a niefel giant is only a unit and has 15 prot . a banefire archer has a natural 10 ap weapon . so you should do 3.99 avg. damage per hit according to saber cherry's statistics too .

there i fully agree .

even if you meant niefel jarls instead of niefel giants they have starting protection of 15 too + no earth / air magic so bringing them up to 25+ protection needed to be quite safe is a difficult task too . you have no access to earth magic via your national magicians + no starting earth income . so you would need your pretender to forge late early game black steel full plates .
given their high encumberance + that you should have more important uses for your pretender than this hard to get niefel jarls higher than 20 protection early-midgame .
with 20 protection according to saber cherry's dice odds you still suffer 2.13 avg damage .

because any x-bow has ap 10 damage any x-bow will be a great threat to niefel jarls early - midgame at least .

niefel jarls should excel at sc 1on1 killers with an-weapons .
but how can you protect them cheap + efficient with your national mages early-midgame ?
if you need your pretender for that would be not so good .


how do you defend midgame against a mictlan vq attack with devil or vampire horde ?
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