Population Disappearing?

[jkmoss]

Is that info in any of the help files, or do you just have to learn it by experience? I haven't been able to find it written down anywhere, or in any of the datafiles.

[dominion]

It's from trial and error. Don't think it's in the documentation.

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[rdouglass]

I thought I had colonized a Ring World before with a colonizer I config'd to hold 1000M pop. I'm pretty sure all colonists 'made it'. Does anyone know the limit for the RW or SW? ...and if this feature / bug is patch specific???

[dogscoff]

...suggested this before, here it is again...

As a fix to this problem, and to enhance gameplay in general, I think players should be able to exceed the stated population limits on planets, but at a *major* cost to happiness, productivity and population growth (ie negative pop growth). There should be a significant risk of plagues as well.

This should only be possible by offloading population from a ship, natural population growth should level off when a planet reaches capacity.

Could cause an exploit problem with emotionless races but it does make sense in terms of roleplay / realism.

This is all hard code of course.


£0.02


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[Master Belisarius]

Some 'natural events' can kill your population (storms for example). And the same thing but with some Intel operations (like the 'contaminated food').

[Baron Munchausen]

quote:

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Originally posted by dominion:
There is a cap in the initial population size for colonization (e.g., 100 million initial colonizing but 500 million capacity max for a breathable tiny planet).
Tiny - 100
Small - 200
Medium - 300
Large - 400
Huge - 500
You shouldn't supply more than that # of people on the ship. Put some mines/fighters/satellites in the extra cargo space.

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Unless something has changed recently this is not a limit on new colony size with your OWN race but on new colony size with another race, a 'subjugated' race that breathes a different atmosphere. I've filled 'super' colony ships with 1000 population or more and they work fine -- provided it is your ORIGINAL population.

Notice that these limits you have 'discovered' are the size of a DOMED colony on the given planet? This is the key.

The problem is that the game doesn't account for the race of the population you are using. It always assumes you are using your default race. For example, you'll see the red and blue 'stars' next to colonizable planets (if you have this enabled) ONLY according to their suitability for your default race. Well, when a new colony is created it is ASSUMED to be for your default race. If the planet atmosphere is not breathable by your default race, the colony is ASSUMED to be domed and its population limit set accordingly. Then when the population is transfered from the colonizer it will 'choke' when it hits that limit. I had the same problem with transports once. I created colonies with 0 population because I had just acquired the population that could breathe the atmosphere and didn't want to have to do the 'exchange" thing with a transport. I used the <d>rop population to send them directly to the empty colonies but when they arrived only the equivalent of the DOMED population was actually dropped. The rest stayed on the transport. I had to manually drop the rest. I reported this to MM but have not tested since. I guess he didn't fix it.

[This message has been edited by Baron Munchausen (edited 04 June 2001).]

[dominion]

I always colonize breathable planets (with the green * next to it). The limit is always there. Try colonizing a medium planet (breathable); the cap is 300 million (initial population).

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