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September 14th, 2004, 02:12 PM
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Re: Are devils worth 7 blood each?
Not putting your income into staying alive during a war is of course a disadvantage and a risk. Winning a war is better than camping and investing, unless the camper attacks soon after you win, when you are still weak.
In general, that seems to all work fine to me.
On huge maps and long-term, peaceful games, hoarding strategies will naturally be more effective than on small ones.
Clearly, it is possible to get huge results from some of these, eventually. In some cases, perhaps some tweaks could help.
Clams - would be good to limit to mages, and/or have a world clam income per turn that caps the total clam astral income (1/water province in the world was my old suggestion).
Soul Contracts - are supposed to be risky, but it seems like the risk is quite low. Might be good to tweak this risk up a bit, and to disallow use on units that don't have souls, or that already have a soul contract (for logical, thematic reasons, mostly).
Fever Fetishes - are supposed to have some additional cost via disease. It'd be good if they didn't work on undead (was that patched yet?), and perhaps if they occasionally diseased a random unit in the same province through contagion (this would have a natural and logical negative effect of hoarding), and perhaps of occasional health crisis for the wearer (take some open-ended damage - possibly fatal, possibly causing affliction).
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September 14th, 2004, 09:46 PM
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Re: Are devils worth 7 blood each?
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PvK said:
It'd be good if they didn't work on undead (was that patched yet?),
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This wouldn't be good. This would have no more effect than making people right-click through 50 scouts a turn to check their hitpoints. As it is now, they cost more resources when you can spend 3 death gems to put them on a mound king.
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September 15th, 2004, 02:35 PM
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Re: Are devils worth 7 blood each?
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Graeme Dice said:
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PvK said:
It'd be good if they didn't work on undead (was that patched yet?),
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This wouldn't be good. This would have no more effect than making people right-click through 50 scouts a turn to check their hitpoints. As it is now, they cost more resources when you can spend 3 death gems to put them on a mound king.
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You didn't quote my entire suggestion. The idea, already begun by the devs, was to attach a drawback and additional cost to the fettishes, and not just a free infinite fire income with almost no limit or cost. My suggestion was not just to require it be on something that can actually be diseased, which is logical given the description, but to also add a chance of damage which might kill the bearer. So it would be akin to the Soul Contract, in that it doesn't Last forever, because eventually the bearer will get a heart attack or seizure and die before the fettish can be applied to someone else.
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September 15th, 2004, 03:13 PM
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Re: Are devils worth 7 blood each?
Whether it is effective or not, I assume that's why contracts are cursed and horror mark you.
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