Gamey Tactics and Bug Exploits Thread

[Captain Kwok]

Imperator Fyron said:
27. Using an empty (no population) colonizer to:
-acquire ruin tech in hostile territory
-set up an outpost in hostile territory
-prevent enemy capture of a planet, especially a desirable planet. (Usually done in disputed territory)

Hmm. I don't think any of these are too cheesey unless used against the AI. And I'm making a mental note for our next common pbw game. You can't capture a planet with no population?

[geoschmo]

Captain Kwok said:
And I'm making a mental note for our next common pbw game. You can't capture a planet with no population?

Not with troops. There's a bug which makes the troop transport not approach and drop troops on a world with no population. But it's easy enough to just glass the colony and then colonize it yourself. It may be a "cheezy" tactic, but it's not a very effective one.

[Gandalf Parker]

So many of those show the "young lion" thing. To consider anything short of head-2-head combat as a cheesy tactic. I tend to win most of my games by diplomacy, even games which dont have diplomacy options in the game.

[Fyron]

Please stop posting discussions in this thread. As per the original post, it is only for gathering a list of what may or may not be considered gamey. For the purposes of the list, it does not matter if you do not consider a particular item to be gamey, someone else did.

[DeKaye]

Are you still accepting suggestions for this list?
How about planting star distroyers at everyone's star but your own, enemies and non enemies alike and distroying them all at once. Done under cloak.

[Fyron]

That is more of a sneaky tactic than gamey, isn't it? Gamey is more like an exploit of what seems to be an intended rule.

And yes, the list is always open.

[DeKaye]

Okay, mis understood gamey. Thanks.

[Thermodyne]

The biggest complaint I have is the groups of people who bring pre established alliances into large PBW games. If it is announced beforehand, that's fine. But when it becomes apparent 20 turn in that several of the players are pre aligned, it is really pushing the limits of ethical game play. And to make it worse, these are often allegedly roomies and kin and often using the same IP address.

[NullAshton]

28. Turtling, then holding a system gravitational shield in the queue with one turn remaining. Scrap your existing shield, open a warppoint, send ships through, close the warppoint, then let the shield finish.

[Fyron]

As the organizer of the list, I feel it is more polite to tell the person that a posted tactic does not qualify as gamey, rather than just ignoring said person. Gamey tactics must have some element of seeming like cheating or being really cheesey. I am not going to add every sneaky but perfectly valid tactic to the list. As Alneyan stated, there is a big difference between me telling a person that a tactic does not qualify as gamey and people posting contrary opinions of gamey items. If I did not reject non-gamey items, we could have literally anything on the list... We could even add "being Geoschmo." There is no contradiction here, as I was not discussing the gameyness of the issue, merely rejecting it as potentially gamey.

NullAshton said:
28. Turtling, then holding a system gravitational shield in the queue with one turn remaining. Scrap your existing shield, open a warppoint, send ships through, close the warppoint, then let the shield finish.

There is this one on the list:

16. Turtling yourself into a corner using Warp Point closers and System Gravitational Shields.

Perhaps a 16a instead.