Soviet Campaigns

[Charles22]

I didn't understand that nobody could play the Japanese side. A bad game for the AI nonetheless.

[Double_Deuce]

Were are mainly just focusing on what would be a good theme for a user created campaign using the Soviets (particularly one that hasn't been done). We could probably come up with several if we can manage to get good OOB, maps and other detailed data. Preferably early to mid war would be the best (IMHO). My particular intersts are;

• The early fighting in Besserabia,
• The fighting around Moscow (41/42),
• The early fighting to retake the Kerch Penninsula (41/42) by amphib invasion,
• The fighting to cutoff and take Leningrad.

[Smersh]

I don't have anything negative to say about those campign themes. but is there a reason why you prefer something in the early stages of the war?

[Double_Deuce]

I like the earlier equipment, before the Soviets have loads of heavy tanks and it became more of a war of attrition where you just grind the Axis forces down. Not that they had it any easier facing Panthers and Tigers. I just prefer the period their backs were against the wall and the final outcome was in doubt (from a player perspective).

For me, commanding a company of JS's gets boring as the campaign wear's on. It becomes more a situation where you just pound the axis into submission as opposed to having to rely on recon, maneuver and sneakiness to beat them.

[Radetzky]

that's the point imho: putting the final outcome in doubt. we all now how the war went on after germany invaded russia,
but it's the vague possibility of "what if" that keeps a campaign game interesting. what if i can't hold these heights overlooking a vital crossing?
what if i fail breaking up that armoured assault? will moscow fall because of me?

[Smersh]

for me the early war period is already covered by at least 2 campigns for spwaw. Kursk on the other hand has not been covered from the soviet pov, and was also a battle where the outcome was in doubt. not only that but it could make for some very interesting tank engagements, and defensive battles.

edit: although I think the leningrad operations are also interesting material.

[PatG]

I rather enjoyed the Stug campaign. I like the Suchka so how about something similar based on the SU-76?

[Radetzky]

dear fellow gamers

following the proposals made by D_D,

1. i'd go for operation typhoon and the ensuing russian
counteroffensive in december '41, thus concentrating on
an early soviet offensive with fresh, properly equipped
troops. how about siberian ski troops as core elements?

2. whatever the outcome, i'd be glad to help you out on any
german translations and/or research needed

good gaming
jan