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October 5th, 2006, 05:15 AM
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Re: Are we paying more for less?
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Well, my thread has been hijacked lol and I think we've hammered this beast to death. Thank you all for the discussion and handling an opposing viewpoint in a mature way. I'm still not entirely sold but I'm definitely more open to the possibility of paying a little extra for a good, niche game if it's worth it. I'll just try the demo when it gets released and make an informed decision then. If anything I hope this thread has made the upper brass at Shrapnel rethink their business model, if even for a second, because in my opinion (and as ill-informed as that may be) a niche game only reaches a niche market if you let it. With the Dominions series there is much room for growth.
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Do not try the demo!!!!
Afaik it is probably done in the same way as the Dom2-Demo, 40 turn limit, research limit at level 4, only a handful of nations playable etc. etc..
So in the demo Dominions doesn't really shine, because in the demo it feels not really different from other turn based games because of the limitations.
As an expert player you could of course do lots of tricks in these 40 turns, but if you are new and have never played Dom in MP you will simply play it like Homm or AoW and easily overlook that Dominions is much deeper than those games.
I think the dom2 demo is one of the 10 worst demos i ever played. The dom1 demo on the other hand was done extremely well imho.
This is only my subjective opinion though, but imho if the Dom3 demo is done like the Dom2 demo it will convince more ppl to not buy Dom3 as it convinces ppl to buy Dom3.
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October 5th, 2006, 05:17 AM
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Re: Are we paying more for less?
Dom1 demo was way too limitless. People would DL the demo and never bother with the full game.
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October 5th, 2006, 05:20 AM
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Re: Are we paying more for less?
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Dom1 demo was way too limitless. People would DL the demo and never bother with the full game.
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Nah. Your best national mage was unpurchaseable, and research was capped at level 5.
Imho there was enough incentive left to buy the full version 
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October 5th, 2006, 07:02 AM
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Re: Are we paying more for less?
IMHO there wasn't.
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October 5th, 2006, 08:04 AM
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Re: Are we paying more for less?
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Talleyrand said:
Well, my thread has been hijacked lol and I think we've hammered this beast to death. Thank you all for the discussion and handling an opposing viewpoint in a mature way. I'm still not entirely sold but I'm definitely more open to the possibility of paying a little extra for a good, niche game if it's worth it. I'll just try the demo when it gets released and make an informed decision then. If anything I hope this thread has made the upper brass at Shrapnel rethink their business model, if even for a second, because in my opinion (and as ill-informed as that may be) a niche game only reaches a niche market if you let it. With the Dominions series there is much room for growth.
Cheers.
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Do not try the demo!!!!
Afaik it is probably done in the same way as the Dom2-Demo, 40 turn limit, research limit at level 4, only a handful of nations playable etc. etc..
So in the demo Dominions doesn't really shine, because in the demo it feels not really different from other turn based games because of the limitations.
As an expert player you could of course do lots of tricks in these 40 turns, but if you are new and have never played Dom in MP you will simply play it like Homm or AoW and easily overlook that Dominions is much deeper than those games.
I think the dom2 demo is one of the 10 worst demos i ever played. The dom1 demo on the other hand was done extremely well imho.
This is only my subjective opinion though, but imho if the Dom3 demo is done like the Dom2 demo it will convince more ppl to not buy Dom3 as it convinces ppl to buy Dom3.
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Nah I think the Doms 2. demo was cool. It gave you nice examples about the final game content. 
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October 5th, 2006, 10:17 AM
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Re: Are we paying more for less?
Personally I also wish it had more turns in it but I think the Dom3 demo is testable. It has the same limits as Dom2, but with added features such as the tutorial. We will need to see how well it does its job.
Oh and I agree that the Dom1 demo was abit too much playability but on the other hand thats not that unusual for a first-release game.
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