Lack of middle ground pretenders

Nerfix · #1 October 7th, 2006, 09:36 AM

Crone.

Endoperez · #2 October 7th, 2006, 09:39 AM

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Nerfix said:Crone.

She has a good reason to try and become one, though.

Nerfix · #3 October 7th, 2006, 09:47 AM

Haha, most definedly yes.

Cainehill · #4 October 7th, 2006, 10:01 AM

As I mentioned elsewhere, I foresee another Conceptual Balance mod being required, at least for pretenders. Once again too many are either too wimpy to anyone to take in a serious MP game, and a handful are too powerful for the costs. (Ghost King for example.)

Pretty much back to where the unmodded Dominions2 was.

Nerfix · #5 October 7th, 2006, 10:04 AM

I'm not sure if the Ghost King/VQ style supercombatants work so well with the reduced research speed. Quickness is less powerful and the Earth protection spells give penalties to resistances. Fireshield is higher up in the research tree and so on.

That said, it is quite likely that we'll get a CB mod for Dominions 3.

Arralen · #6 October 7th, 2006, 10:08 AM

A CB mod won't help you much - how many "medium sized" pretender chassis are there anyway? We would need some graphics first ...

Twan · #7 October 7th, 2006, 10:17 AM

With copysprite it's easy to mod any monster to be a pretender. Personnally I plan to make a mod adding a troll king, a sea king and an ivy king as middle ground (but non rainbow) pretenders for most nations (except fire oriented).

Twan · #8 October 7th, 2006, 12:55 PM

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Twan said:
With copysprite it's easy to mod any monster to be a pretender. Personnally I plan to make a mod adding a troll king, a sea king ...

Done in five minutes.

Just use #newmonster, #copyspr and #copystats, add #pathcost (a value) and any monster may become a pretender in an hearthbat.

This game needs a scrollable list for pretender choice, then a mod making available all the existing creatures as pretender choices, can easily be made (ok it would be a balance nightmare, but fun for SP at least, and giving hundreds of middle ground chassis).

Boron · #9 October 7th, 2006, 11:24 AM

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Cainehill said:

As I mentioned elsewhere, I foresee another Conceptual Balance mod being required, at least for pretenders. Once again too many are either too wimpy to anyone to take in a serious MP game, and a handful are too powerful for the costs. (Ghost King for example.)

Pretty much back to where the unmodded Dominions2 was.

Yeah, Dom3 is balancewise better than Dom2, but worse than Dom2 CB imho.

National troops need to be rebalanced too imho and scales probably too.

But once a good CB mod is out there Dom3 CB will be much better than Dom2 CB

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