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				 old age counters 
 I want to compile a comprehensive list of old age counters.I'll start with I know and I hope the lore master can help me fill in the blanks.
 
 1. Growth scales. IIRC, reduces the chances for getting old age afflictions.
 
 2. Nature path for mages. Extends life span.
 
 3. Death path for mages. reduces the chances for getting old age afflictions.
 
 4. Items.
 Blood 2/construction 6 : boots of youth : stop aging for wearer
 Elixir of Life. Wearer doesn't age.
 
 5. Spells.
 Rejuvenate. Blood magic. Takes 10 years off your age. Also, revives you from one combat death.
 Gift of Health. Makes your units age more slowly.
 
 EDIT, copy paste responses to list. thanks guys.
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				November 28th, 2006, 01:14 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: old age counters 
 Blood 2/construction 6 : boots of youth : stop aging for wearer
 There's also a blood spell that make you 10 years younger for 10 blood slaves
 
 The elixir of life (construction 6 I think, or is it an artifact ? I got it once for free with a random event) prevent aging too, and can ressurect your commander once.
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				November 28th, 2006, 01:15 PM
			
			
			
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				 Spells / items include 
 Spells:  Rejuvenate.  Blood magic.  Takes 10 years off your age.
 Also, revives you from one combat death.
 
 Gift of Health.  Makes your units age more slowly, if memory serves.
 
 
 Items:
 Elixir of Life.  Wearer doesn't age.
 
 Boots of Youth.  Wearer doesn't age.
 
 
 *edit*
 
 None of the above are artifacts, but the Gift of Health, being a global, can only belong to one player at a time.
 
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				November 28th, 2006, 02:38 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Spells / items include 
 There was also the chalice, an artifact which doesn't really stop aging, but is supposed to cure all afflictions, so aging won't be a problem. |  
	
		
	
	
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				November 28th, 2006, 03:19 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Spells / items include 
 Loosely connected, probably too obvious--but just in case:
 twiceborn--after you die, you come back as a lich-like critter that no longer is affected by age.
 
 undead status--units that are undead are not affected by age.
 
 inanimate--not affected by age.
 
 magical--not sure if they are affected by age or not!
 
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				November 28th, 2006, 04:06 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Spells / items include 
 Undead and inanimates do age and get penalties from old age.
 Transformation can also change you into another creature with a new age.
 
 Lycanthrope amulet and that troll king armor probably also work.
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				November 28th, 2006, 04:12 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Spells / items include 
 Ologm,
 IANASCD (i am not a super cool dude), but I have never seen any age effects on any undead, nor on inanimate units.  I currently have tons of them in a very long term game....
 
 Wraithlords, Bane Lords, Banes, Wights, Gargoyles, and Crushers are the units I am specifically thinking of.
 
 Are you sure?
 
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				November 28th, 2006, 04:22 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Spells / items include 
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				November 28th, 2006, 04:31 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Spells / items include 
 Some Tartarians exit the gate with old age and they most certainly get the old age marker and are affected by the stat reductions of old age despite being undead. 
From a practical perspective, most undead have so long a "life" ahead of them if you check their age on the fatigue summary that it is unlikely in the extreme that you'll ever see them as old if they aren't already old when you get them (you'd have to play many, many, thousands of turns), but exceptions do exist as the Tartarian example shows (due to them only getting a max age of 500 and starting with 400-600 age, whereas e.g. Dusk Elders typically have a max age of 2500-4500 depending on how much you boost their death paths and start at something like 400-600 too. Yeah, those ancient dead gods are puny youngsters compared to the dusk elders   )
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				 Re: Spells / items include 
 Undead also aren't affected by disease, so even if they do get old, they won't ever die from it.
 I assume lifeless units wouldn't be affected by disease either but don't know for sure about that.
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